I seem to remember that there was a project to build Java 3D on top of GL4Java called JFreeD back in days of 1.1. I think it died and I'm not sure what happened to sources etc. Maybe it ran into licensing issues? Might be worth checking out.
Richard
On Monday, Mar 3, 2003, at 08:58 Europe/London, Ian M Nieves wrote:
Frederic,
I am also bothered by this. I will not be naive to the fact that there may be some "political issues" at play here as well. I have heard rumors that Apple has a working (perhaps not tweaked) version of J3D on OSX. (I dont like rumors either, but I heard a while ago) And this makes sense, since porting J3D to an OpenGL platform should not be difficult.
So I do believe that Apple has J3D working. Perhaps they have been waiting to release JDK 1.4.1. Now there seem to be no more excuses. If we dont see Java3D relatively soon (perhaps 2-3 months), then perhaps we should seriously consider doing a port ourselves. This would either involve re-engineering it or reverse engineering it, pick your poison.
As an alternative, I am also considering adding J3D functionalities to GL4Java. This would bridge the functionality gap between the two of them, while still allowing the developer to squeeze out performance if they wish. I kinda like that idea also. Who knows.
Annoyed, Ian
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Frederic Barachant wrote:
BUMP !! Anyone at sun has something to say about this? I've been waiting almost two years for this to happen. Official propaganda at this time was that Apple was working on it. Well. They do it eyes shut, and with one finger, or maybe it was a lie. If it's not planned, please be honest and say it. If there is a problem with Apple, go on, say it. We can lobby them. There are tons of people around that would benefit from having an osx version of it. Blackdown people could even port their linux version, if their license permitted them to do so. (by the way, you at Blackdown, would you do it if your license did permit you to do that ?)
Non communication is the worst state to resolve problems. Please, explain what's happening, we might be of some help.
At 25/02/2003 14:51:00, you wrote:I know, I know; No comment from Macintosh about Java3D. Although now that Java 1.4 is implemented for OSX, maybe Java3D is next?
Any insiders out there have any good news?
Take Care, Mike
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