These days I'm afraid I'd only buy an OpenMoko as a techie wanting to
fiddle, rather than a serious consumer user. If I hadn't forgotten
almost all of my C it would be an interesting project to help out on
one of the ongoing Java SE ports for this phone.

Unfortunately I think the project has already lost its way - after
all, you can't have a commercial launch of a handset without having a
half-decent consumer stack available. I wonder to what degree HTC, who
have bankrolled the hardware side of the project to date, has been
distracted by its work on Android - and how much longer they will fund
what at the moment is very much a niche market.

Maybe somebody should look at how viable an Android port would be...

Phil.

On Sep 18, 4:29 am, Reinier Zwitserloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2:26 pm, Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I agree in principal with what the Posse have said previously about
> > being able to install what you want on a device you have paid for.
> > That said, my phone is not jailbroken and I have nothing I need to do
> > that requires software I can't already get or isn't already on the
> > phone. Except maybe ssh for emergency support work.
>
> From a consumer standpoint I get your point entirely. It's a nice
> device, certainly better than anything else on the market, so who
> cares about the developer's troubles?
>
> However, we're also developers. And for developers, this is
> fundamentally unfair. The battle for them is to give in now, thereby
> showing they can be trampled, and setting themselves up for an even
> worse future, accepting long term term loss to get short term gain.
> And, part of the reason the iPhone is pretty neat is because of third
> party apps. So as consumers it might help if you stood with the
> developers and made a bit of a stink about it.
>
> In a related note: The last openmoko phone really completely sucked.
> I'd love it if openmoko became something nice - competition is great,
> but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. Or, do keep your hopes up, but check
> a demo before you buy. That's always good advice.
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