I also noticed when downloading update 10 for instance from
http://www.java.com/en/download/ you get the installer to Open Office
thrown in: http://82.103.135.236/open-office-installer-wtf.png

It is not just about the download size, it's also the mental overhead.
Sometimes I wonder whether Sun ever tried guiding a customer over the
phone, these bundles simply do not help the perception of Java.

/Casper

On Nov 11, 2:23 am, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The addons to not increase the download size unless you choose the  
> extra install. With the kernel the minimum install is greatly reduced  
> from the previous JRE installs.
>
> - Josh, on the go
>
> On Nov 10, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Subject says it all ;)
>
> > We can only hope that over time that Sun's java distros are replaced
> > with OpenJDK built ones even for the desktop.
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