> Two years later I still think it was the right choice. We now have  
> better ways of doing the things we were trying to accomplish; with  
> projects like the Nimbus L&F, JavaFX, and the JXLayeredPane.

I you use one of those things, that is... Which is how many percent of
the developers? 5?

I don't mean to be rude, but there is a big difference if 5% gets the
chance to use it or if 95% get the chance as would've been the case
with Swing. Sun engineers always wants us to add this and that to our
projects so solve some simple thing but don't seem to understand that
all those jars really add up to the download. I would never dream of
adding swingx.jar just to get JXLayeredPane, to get painters, for
instance. Painters is a 1k thing and you shouldn't have to add more
than that to get it.
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