> Really?  I think it shows that Sun hasn't historically been all that
> concerned about the Mac.
>

Agreed - that too. They've wanted mass consumer markets handed to them,
instead of doing mass marketing.  AOL managed to get software on everyone's
PCs from 1995-2003, through mailers, magazine inserts, bundling dealings,
etc.  Sun sued MS for *not* including the type of Java they wanted
distributed.


>
> It is still a niche market for clients and a very, very small market for
> servers and requires a great deal of platform-specific code to do the right
> things GUI-wise.  Apple has been extremely slow, but since Java 5 the
> results have been decent when they finally arrive.
>
> Given the incremental benefit vs. incremental cost, it seems like a
> no-brainer for Sun to leave this to Apple -- much as they leave AIX to IBM,
> for instance (which I'd personally be more excited to see change given the
> delays in JVM releases, frequent disparate behavior with respect to Sun
> JVMs, lack of JVM source code, etc, one has to deal with currently on AIX).
>

Again, if Java is key to their future, being more in control of how and when
versions shipped would seem to be paramount.  Leaving these decisions to
competitors (Sun and Apple and IBM all sell hardware, though admittedly to
somewhat different markets at the moment) just seems like *really bad
business*.  This is not me talking as a techie saying "ooh - I want the
latest java".  It's me thinking "why would you leave your competitors in
charge of how and when people get access to your differentiating factor?".


>
> --
> Jess Holle
>
>
> >
>


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