> > On Jan 22, 4:14 pm, Michael Kimsal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The cynical part of me (and others I've talked to) seems to indicate > that > > > Java is a threat to the Objective-C approach Apple wants everyone to > take. > > > The more people can write portable stuff on a Mac, the less tied to a > Mac > > > they'll be. To the extent this is true, I don't see one whit of > attitudinal > > > difference between Apple's approach to Java and Microsoft's all those > years > > > ago. > > > > Sorry to be blunt, but this is asinine, and this kind of > > conspiratorial talk reflects poorly on the Java community. Java is > > not being kept down by The Man and his nefarious plan to force > > everyone to use Objective-C. > > > > For one thing, Ruby and Python are first-class languages for Cocoa > > programming on the Mac as of OS X 10.5. > >
Who created the OSX versions of Ruby and Python? Did Apple do it? I think Ruby is bundled with OSX, but I'm not sure who did the port. "Java is not being kept down by The Man" Up to date Java is being kept off the Mac by Apple, though. Whatever the reason is, they've taken on the responsibility of providing something, and aren't doing a timely job of it. Whether you think that warrants the notion of it being "kept off" as opposed to "ignored" or "given lower priority", the net result is still the same. I don't think anyone sees Ruby or Python being a threat to traditional 'desktop app' experiences, as they're "just" scripting languages. Call it conspiratorial if you want. It's not in Apple's best interest (business-wise or tech-wise) to have head to head competition to their development platform of choice (which, I do believe, today includes Ruby for some things). Again, same as MS. If MS was tapped to develop an MS-suitable Java and handle distribution of it, even on friendly terms, they wouldn't keep it up to date either, similar to Apple, as it competes with their .NET platform It again comes down to Apple *shouldn't* be the ones handling Java on Mac in the first place (nor should IBM handle the AIX port). -- Michael Kimsal http://michaelkimsal.com 919.827.4724 - Skype 919.455.8488 - Cell --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
