2009/9/18 Alex Buckley <[email protected]> > > Stuart, > > On Sep 17, 11:22 am, Stuart McCulloch <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is probably pouring oil on the fire, but it looks like hacking a > > prototype even lets you circumvent the JCP ;) > > > > http://altair.cs.oswego.edu/pipermail/jsr294-modularity-observer/2009... > > Even with a smiley, one should be very careful about making some > statements in a public, archived forum. > > Are you claiming that Sun is circumventing the JCP by developing the > Jigsaw module system for JDK7 in an OpenJDK project? >
Hi Alex, Yes circumvent is a bad choice of words - but while catching up with email last night I found it interesting to read a post here with the following quote: "a more constructive way to influence future language decision is helping to hack prototypes ahead of time" and a short time later read a message to the 294 observer list that said: "In the absence of a concrete proposal by the 294 Expert Group, I would suggest that the Jigsaw documentation is the standing reference" Now it is true that Jigsaw will be the first modularity system that's baked into the JDK - it is documenting changes to the language, classfile, JVM, and javac - and at times I've had trouble working out which changes were driven by JSR 294, and which were driven by Jigsaw. So perhaps (like the original topic on this thread) it simply comes down to a general feeling or perception. This wasn't helped by the numerous recent emails to the observer list which basically declared JSR 294 as stagnant, and naming Jigsaw the de facto reference by virtue of having documented changes to the JLS, etc. But I recognize those particular emails didn't come from the expert group or Sun, and I hope that JSR 294 can help clarify that it is very much alive and in control of the process. Alex > -- Cheers, Stuart --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
