Hi Stuart,

On Sep 17, 8:51 pm, Stuart McCulloch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes circumvent is a bad choice of words - but while catching up with email
> last night I found it interesting to read a post here with the following
> quote:

So you are NOT claiming that Sun is circumventing the JCP by
developing the Jigsaw module system for JDK7 in an OpenJDK project.
That's good. I know you would not do such a thing. The understanding
held by observers of complex topics often comes down to a general
feeling or perception, which can be skewed by offhand comments meant
for those "in the know".

> So perhaps (like the original topic on this thread) it simply comes down to
> a general feeling or perception. This wasn't helped by the numerous recent
> emails to the observer list which basically declared JSR 294 as stagnant,
> and naming Jigsaw the de facto reference by virtue of having documented
> changes to the JLS, etc.

The 294 observer list is of course primarily a way to follow the
Expert Group discussions; there is no expectation that EG members are
even on the observer list. The 294 observer list can be posted to by
observers so that their comments do not get lost on personal blogs,
unrelated mailing lists, etc. It is not surprising that, occasionally,
observers will post a view supporting one aspect of the EG discussion
or another.

> But I recognize those particular emails didn't come from the expert group
> or Sun, and I hope that JSR 294 can help clarify that it is very much alive
> and in control of the process.

There are very important issues at stake in 294 and EG members are
doubtless consulting widely within their organizations. My recent
questions to the authors of the Simple Module System proposal are
intended to light up the road ahead where the proposal is rather
brief. As Peter Kriens said, "please bear with us and allow the EG to
do its work".

Alex
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