On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm just saying that for development, it seems very cumbersome. If I could
> bring in a UML diagram and tie that to other objects and needs, I could
> create a panel that explains the new functionality and then hand it off to a
> developer.


You sure you mean Developer and not code monkey?


> This IDE would be a great way to share information for small tasks such as
> adding features, debugging problems, etc. Don't get your britches up in a
> bunch just because someone threw out a random idea. I find that some of the
> best ideas and innovations have come about because someone was just playing
> with an idea and it happened to be much more than it seemed.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Kfir Shay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> UML really?!
>>
>> sorry for taking this a bit off topic
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Robert Casto <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I agree with others as a debugging, problem resolution, and research
>> tool. I
>> > especially like how you can create a panel with documentation, debug
>> values,
>> > and much more. I could triage a problem, and then ship it off to a
>> developer
>> > for fixing. I would be sure they could see the problem since all the
>> > necessary data is right there. Using it as a code editor though would
>> > require more work I think. If it has support for ERD, UML, and other
>> such
>> > tools, that would be very compelling as a development tool.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Johannes Thönes
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes I agreed. It is a very interesting approach. And I would love to
>> >> hear an interview about this.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > I stumbled on this video of Code Bubbles in action:
>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPX0nElJ0k
>> >> >
>> >> > and was quite amazed. I'm not sure if its pragmatic to have so little
>> >> > signal-to-noise when actually typing new code, but there's easy
>> >> > solutions around this. Basically, your IDE is an effectively
>> boundless
>> >> > plane and the granularity of editing anything isn't per-file but per-
>> >> > method/class, with the method/classes actual location just metadata,
>> >> > with the IDE sorting it all into the appropriate files internally.
>> >> > Navigating anywhere is primarily via a search-in-everything keyboard
>> >> > box, and code appears in bubbles on this infinite plane. If you do
>> >> > things like "visit declaration", the declaration opens, but in a new
>> >> > bubble, visible together with the original code, instead of what most
>> >> > current IDEs do, which is to open a new 'tab' and replace the view
>> >> > entirely. It would also be an _amazing_ pair programming / code
>> review
>> >> > IDE if only you could all work in one plane, each having their own
>> >> > little section in it, with you able to freely travel to someone
>> else's
>> >> > space. Unfortunately from the video it seems like all you can do is
>> >> > email workspace layouts around, but that too could be addressed, I
>> >> > guess.
>> >> >
>> >> > Later on in the video a debug session is started which really does
>> >> > look amazing (for code editing I'm not entirely convinced yet, but
>> >> > that looks like a fantastic debugger!)
>> >> >
>> >> > I know discussions about "Why are code editors still a glorified dumb
>> >> > terminal" show up from time to time and this is certainly something
>> >> > new.
>> >> >
>> >> > There isn't a download yet; more info is here:
>> >> > http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/acb/codebubbles_site.htm
>> >> >
>> >> > I wouldn't mind seeing an interview of Andrew Bragdon about this :)
>> >> >
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