Bubbles that are too big would be a code smell and a hint that something
needs refactored.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Zinger <[email protected]>wrote:

> I gotta say, this is the first IDE I want to use.  Yes, I know, I haven't
> actually tried it, so it's a bit premature for such judgments, but I can't
> help but feel enthralled.  I'm a little concerned about what it'll feel like
> to work on longer methods, where vertical scrolling is necessary.  I guess
> in that situation your bubble takes up as much vertical real estate as you
> can give it and then if the user would probably start moving its sibling
> bubbles to the side to give it maximum height.  I guess it could work...
>
> As far as a paradigm shift, I don't see it.  Both in IDE's and in plain
> text editors, it seems most people spend a lot of time referencing API docs,
> other snippets of relevant code, often looking at the same set of snippets
> of code for any given problem, etc.  I think this thing matches the current
> paradigm perfect, but with a better execution than what's on the market
> presently.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Brian Ehmann <[email protected]>
> *To:* The Java Posse <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thu, March 11, 2010 11:31:35 AM
> *Subject:* [The Java Posse] Re: Code Bubbles: A really weird new IDE.
> (Posse: Interview this guy!)
>
> I really like its approach.  The UI appears to intuitively allow a
> developer to narrow their focus to the parts of the code that are
> absolutely necessary in order to accomplish a given task.  Also, the
> ability to send a serialized copy of a given section of my workspace
> to another developer is another plus.  Its strikes me as the next
> evolutionary step from pastbin since you can build out the context of
> the message you are trying to get across with the appropriate code
> fragments, notes, and flags.
>
> Unfortunately, going from seeing entire source files in a project tree
> to functions in a bubble is such a radical change that I wonder if it
> will be difficult for developers to adapt their practices in order to
> take advantage of the features of Code Bubbles.
>
> - Brian
>
>
> On Mar 11, 6:00 am, Johannes Thönes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Yes I agreed. It is a very interesting approach. And I would love to
> > hear an interview about this.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I stumbled on this video of Code Bubbles in action:
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPX0nElJ0k
> >
> > > and was quite amazed. I'm not sure if its pragmatic to have so little
> > > signal-to-noise when actually typing new code, but there's easy
> > > solutions around this. Basically, your IDE is an effectively boundless
> > > plane and the granularity of editing anything isn't per-file but per-
> > > method/class, with the method/classes actual location just metadata,
> > > with the IDE sorting it all into the appropriate files internally.
> > > Navigating anywhere is primarily via a search-in-everything keyboard
> > > box, and code appears in bubbles on this infinite plane. If you do
> > > things like "visit declaration", the declaration opens, but in a new
> > > bubble, visible together with the original code, instead of what most
> > > current IDEs do, which is to open a new 'tab' and replace the view
> > > entirely. It would also be an _amazing_ pair programming / code review
> > > IDE if only you could all work in one plane, each having their own
> > > little section in it, with you able to freely travel to someone else's
> > > space. Unfortunately from the video it seems like all you can do is
> > > email workspace layouts around, but that too could be addressed, I
> > > guess.
> >
> > > Later on in the video a debug session is started which really does
> > > look amazing (for code editing I'm not entirely convinced yet, but
> > > that looks like a fantastic debugger!)
> >
> > > I know discussions about "Why are code editors still a glorified dumb
> > > terminal" show up from time to time and this is certainly something
> > > new.
> >
> > > There isn't a download yet; more info is here:
> > >http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/acb/codebubbles_site.htm
> >
> > > I wouldn't mind seeing an interview of Andrew Bragdon about this :)
> >
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