I'd agreee that SWT helped kick Sun in the pants to dramatically improve
Java 2D and Swing.
As such it helped us all out.
At this point I believe it has outlived its usefulness for >>>95% of use
cases (fonts being rendered just the way you feel they should be does
/not/ count in my book) and serves only to unnecessarily fragment the
Java UI space -- and IDE space for that matter (as plug-ins would like
have more shared code between IDE's if they all used java.* and javax.*
packages rather than SWT).
On 4/9/2010 11:38 AM, carl wrote:
Not all of us on the Posse are SWT bashers :) I always thought a next-
generation toolkit could have been built with something like swing on
top of java2D and SWT.
But I guess JavaFX's scene graph is the now new new thing.
On Apr 8, 12:01 pm, Lhasadad<[email protected]> wrote:
Guys,
Listened to latest podcast and have got to say that the SWT bashing
got old pretty quick. I agree with you that using an internal API is
likely to get you into trouble. that was just a poor choice the
Eclipse SWT developer made. As you pointed out it works with an
environment variable tweaked (its possible that the developer intended
that it always be tweaked on Linux and someone missed doing that until
now). you guys have lived in the real world and you know how this
happens.
I worked with early Java and I know the pains our GUI god when through
to work with AWT and early Releases of Swing. The early development
of eclipse was looking for more performance than was available in
those releases and they saw a problem and found a solution. In the
end they very likelyhelped drive the Sun through a little competition
to improve the implementation of Swing to get much better performance
out of it. At the end of the day everyone benefited. we got a strong
IDE that helped moved Java adoption in the enterprise space. we all
won there. Can we just call a truce at this point and not sing in
glee when small problem appears in someones library as long as the
respond and fix it quickly?
Can we let it go?
Thanks
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