Hi Scott, what insult to Joe are you referring to? Stating Joe has an Apple bias is not an insult but pretty much a fact that can be backed up with examples.
Sorry Scott but I can't help feeling you are , as we say in the UK, stirring. R On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Scott Melton <[email protected]>wrote: > Do you really expect me to believe that one sentence from one letter from > another country, taken out of context supports your assertion that patent > lawyers are retarded(special needs, LOL) morons and idiots? I may resemble a > young baboon but even I don't buy that one. > > Regarding your post about Joe deserving the beating. Your rational falls > well short of polite behavior. You say if he deserves it, I guess meaning it > is true, it's ok for someone to insult and berate him? If someone personally > insults someone else, then maybe your argument holds some water, even though > I'd argue that retaliation in kind is usually not the best way to handle > things. Fact is, he did not. He voiced his opinion and now you are telling > me that because you think he is wrong he deserves to be personally insulted > in public? I don't think so. Not even in my backyard. > > Even if we were sitting in my backyard drinking beer and telling dirty > jokes, try calling Willy Nelson a burned out old hippy. It may be true, but > I doubt he'd cotton to it. (no, I don't know the burned out old hippy ;) > > This isn't my backyard. It's a professional forum of your peers read by > (possibly) thousands of people of all walks of life, burned into virtual > stone for posterity to read and ponder. Women, children and people of other > cultures who might find ugly or off color posts offensive or at least, > unpleasant. Some people might be ok with them, thick skin and all, but it's > these others that we should consider when we choose our wording. > > Or at least, that is my opinion, from my country, Texas, my culture, Texas, > imposing my behavioral standards from Texas, blah blah blah... > > > > > Opinion sent from Mybacksideistan phone. > > > --- On *Fri, 4/9/10, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Software Patents and Joe bashing > > To: "The Java Posse" <[email protected]> > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:45 AM > > > Nope. People who write these laws are retarded morons who get played > by lobbyists. > > A british MP (something that bears some resemblance to a US senator or > house representative) recently wrote a letter to another MP to try to > convince her of the importance of a new law that, amongst many other > things, will bring a three-strikes-and-you're-out system to internet > access in the United Kingdom: If you get *accused* 3 times of breaking > copyright law, you get your internet disconnected. It's not quite - > that- dramatic, but that's not really the point. The letter included > the following text: > > An IP Address (Intellectual Property Address) > > That's right. Apparently IP Address doesn't stand for Internet > Protocol Address anymore. > > See. Idiots. > > Regardless of whether the current patent system is good or bad, and > regardless of whether joe is being bashed, and regardless of whether > or not he deserves that, your point about the current law being made > by people 'infinitely more knowledgable than you' is only true if > you're a baby baboon with a learning difficulty. You seem to be able > to type, so, I doubt that. > > > On Apr 8, 6:12 pm, Scott Melton > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > In a free and open society it is easy to find fault in complicated > systems, just as it is easy to have a bias, pick sides and misrepresent the > facts. One example in this thread, I may be wrong, but I think there is good > reason for simplifying the patent granting process from who invented it > first(which can be very difficult and costly to prove) to who filed first. > Is the change a choice between the lesser of two weavels? Certainly. > Infinitely more knowledgeable people than I made the decision. I will side > with them until I become a patent lawyer or become so well informed that I > can pass judgment on this complicated system. > > > > On to the Joe bashing or un-bashing if you will. Everyone has a bias. If > you think you do not then you are biased toward the delusional. I enjoy the > spirited discussions on the Java Posse podcast and think it is crucial to > have them. If a bias surfaces from time to, (Apple, UNIX!, Windows) that is > fine with me. I am lucky to know where they sit, before they tell me where > they stand. > > > > The Posse members take extreme measures to inform people about where they > sit. They do an exemplary job of presenting the issues in a well thought > out, open, balanced and professional manner. Knowing their bias(or assuming > I do) sometimes helps me understand their position more clearly. > > > > Having listened to over half of the podcasts, I have come to the > conclusion that the format is an easy, open and professional one. It is easy > to listen to, very informative and sometimes as fun as a barrel of monkeys. > (That is a whole lot of fun!) For someone to personally criticize and insult > a member for having a bias and not conforming to their way of thinking(right > or wrong) is non-productive and unnecessary(unwanted?) in this format. > > > > That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. There is no reason to personally > criticize or insult me for it. > > > > Apologies for high jacking this thread, > > Scott Melton > > > > Opinion sent from my ASS phone. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+ > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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