-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 4/14/10 15:05 , Joey Gibson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Robert Casto > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I think you are wrong about Java on the Mac. It didn't do well > because of Apple. They never kept up with releases and didn't > bother to put much effort into it. You can't blame Java for that. > I'm surprised Sun didn't take Apple to task about getting updates > out there quicker. > > > What really sucks about Java on the Mac (disclosure: I am a very > happy Mac Pro massive-powerhouse-of-a-machine owner) is that Steve > Jobs stood with McNealy at JavaOne in 2001 (I think that was the > one; I was there, but I'm not sure of the year) and said that he > was going to make the Mac the best platform for Java development. > Now, I love my Mac, and now that we *finally* have Java 1.6 it's > great. But for years, advanced Java was not as easy to do because > of Apple's glacially slow pace at getting JDKs out the door. My > wish for the past three years has been that Apple would just let > Sun handle the JDK for OSX, but that never happened. Things are very complex in this field. Indeed Sun produced the very initial Java ports for Mac OS X, but they sucked really a lot, for some reasons including the poor UI rendering. For this reason, Apple decided to provide their own implementation. This made sense, and in this case the original guy to blame for the problem was Sun. The current best solution would be to open up the specific Mac OS X code from Apple, so it could be integrated into the OpenJDK and contributed from the community. But figure it out. I'd not be surprised if one of these days Jobs woke up and decided to drop Java support on Mac OS X entirely...
As per the year, I think it was 2001 indeed - I was there, but I don't have personal records, still I've seen that date in other references. The point is that at the time Apple was in desperate conditions, with Jobs just returned as the CEO, facing with a lot of troubles, huge architectural changes and a market penetration to reinvent. Thus, he needed to gain support wherever he could. In the last years Apple has been successful and doesn't need that kind of help any longer. I'd say this is a very mean behaviour, but in the end it's marketing (not that pursuing a style in marketing is forbidden, anyhow). - -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/people [email protected] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkvFwQIACgkQeDweFqgUGxeTLACdH6scCg5EWdVu/n8d03OG3xYA ySQAniELd8Pv6DtlDR/ySvoUEcnA4twd =xCJY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
