substitute "apps" for "websites" and... well, you get the idea :)

On 26 April 2010 14:36, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote:

> I would say it's more of a desire not to have a bunch of low quality,
> least common denominator apps from multi-platform frameworks.  For
> example, if you had a platform that generated blackberry/symbian/
> android/iphoneos, the apps are probably going to suck.
>
> seems to me like something the market should decide though.  if people
> generate a bunch of crappy apps, no one is going to buy them.  and
> there are a TON of crappy apps out there already even though almost
> all are written in ObjC
>
> exclusivity might be a mild a side benefit for apple, but it's really
> not that hard to write a mobile client for the types of apps that
> would be multi-target.  so I can't think this will slow down other
> platforms much if any.
>
> On Apr 26, 2:03 am, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Do we all agree that the sole reason behind sticking with Obj-C is
> > exclusivity rather than performance? Sure there may be slight overhead
> > involved with managed languages and GC (we know this from Java
> > and .NET), but smartphones are now clocking in at 1GHz with 512MB+ RAM
> > and Moore's law means that a 20% overhead will have been offset in a
> > mere 3-4 months time.
> >
> > Hell, Android still kicks butt even if we have to wait another month
> > or so for the JIT'er to be turned on in 2.2/Froyo. Add to that, the
> > benefits of sandboxing which you've gained by virtue of the managed
> > platform.
> >
> > /Casper
> >
> > On Apr 26, 8:50 am, wilfred <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Listening to the last episode right now, in particular the comments on
> > > Apple's decision to ban anything but Objective C based apps from the
> > > iPhone and iPad. Next to me, on top of a pile of books, there is a
> > > book opened up on a page that has some ties with what is being
> > > discussed. It's part of an open letter to Steve Jobs, dating from
> > > 1996:
> >
> > > "Dear Steve,
> > > ....
> > > Drop Objective C. There's no money to be made supporting yet another
> > > object language. Use C++ with SOM and you;ll get all the same benefits
> > > without the headaches. If you don't like C++, use Smalltalk with CORBA
> > > - it will also give you the same results.
> > > ...."
> >
> > > It's part of Robert Orfali's book on Distributed Object Computing. I
> > > think it's pretty hilarious, looking back. Rather than scaring
> > > developers off - as the authors expected - Objective C is now being
> > > used to scare people away from targeting anything but Steve's
> > > platform.
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