please 'splain what you mean. On Apr 26, 7:49 am, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > substitute "apps" for "websites" and... well, you get the idea :) > > On 26 April 2010 14:36, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > I would say it's more of a desire not to have a bunch of low quality, > > least common denominator apps from multi-platform frameworks. For > > example, if you had a platform that generated blackberry/symbian/ > > android/iphoneos, the apps are probably going to suck. > > > seems to me like something the market should decide though. if people > > generate a bunch of crappy apps, no one is going to buy them. and > > there are a TON of crappy apps out there already even though almost > > all are written in ObjC > > > exclusivity might be a mild a side benefit for apple, but it's really > > not that hard to write a mobile client for the types of apps that > > would be multi-target. so I can't think this will slow down other > > platforms much if any. > > > On Apr 26, 2:03 am, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Do we all agree that the sole reason behind sticking with Obj-C is > > > exclusivity rather than performance? Sure there may be slight overhead > > > involved with managed languages and GC (we know this from Java > > > and .NET), but smartphones are now clocking in at 1GHz with 512MB+ RAM > > > and Moore's law means that a 20% overhead will have been offset in a > > > mere 3-4 months time. > > > > Hell, Android still kicks butt even if we have to wait another month > > > or so for the JIT'er to be turned on in 2.2/Froyo. Add to that, the > > > benefits of sandboxing which you've gained by virtue of the managed > > > platform. > > > > /Casper > > > > On Apr 26, 8:50 am, wilfred <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Listening to the last episode right now, in particular the comments on > > > > Apple's decision to ban anything but Objective C based apps from the > > > > iPhone and iPad. Next to me, on top of a pile of books, there is a > > > > book opened up on a page that has some ties with what is being > > > > discussed. It's part of an open letter to Steve Jobs, dating from > > > > 1996: > > > > > "Dear Steve, > > > > .... > > > > Drop Objective C. There's no money to be made supporting yet another > > > > object language. Use C++ with SOM and you;ll get all the same benefits > > > > without the headaches. If you don't like C++, use Smalltalk with CORBA > > > > - it will also give you the same results. > > > > ...." > > > > > It's part of Robert Orfali's book on Distributed Object Computing. I > > > > think it's pretty hilarious, looking back. Rather than scaring > > > > developers off - as the authors expected - Objective C is now being > > > > used to scare people away from targeting anything but Steve's > > > > platform. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "The Java Posse" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > Kevin Wright > > mail/google talk: [email protected] > wave: [email protected] > skype: kev.lee.wright > twitter: @thecoda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
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