6 years. What I am trying to point out though, is that this "standard" by now is more of a comfort thing than anything else. Eclipse/NetBeans/ Idea/JDeveloper, JDBC/JDBCtemplate/Hibernate/JPA/iBatis, Log4J/Apache commons logging/java.util.Logging/SLF4J, JSP/Tapestry/SpringMVC/GWT/ Wicket/JSF/Struts/Stripes/Click... you get where I am going. Java the language and core API might be a standard, but you won't get far with that today. I.e. lately Spring seems to seep in everywhere and honestly that's one giant source of complexity and XML config I could easily be without.
On Jul 24, 7:41 pm, Robert Casto <[email protected]> wrote: > Managers love standards because it makes developers interchangeable. Try > finding good Python, Perl, Scala, or Groovy developers compared to Java. > People come and go but the code must be maintained. That means keeping the > learning curve from getting too steep. > > I'm not saying I like it. Just that this is why they love standards. It is > for productivity of new members that this is done, not for the current > developers. What is the longest someone here has been at one company anyway? > That might provide some insight on why big companies don't like these new > languages. > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Java is so much more complex and unproductive compared to a language > > > like Python. > > > And then there's the choice issue, the hardest thing about doing stuff > > in Java is to find the right pieces to use, and learn how to use them > > - since you don't get far beyond college tutorials with just vanilla > > Java. I'd personally not use Java either, but it's a standard and > > managers loves standards more than productivity. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > .com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- > Robert Castowww.IWantFreeShipping.com > Find Amazon Filler Items easily! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
