Dear Kevin, Thank you for your reply.
'India has a large population, and therefore a large (absolute) number of Indians travel and work abroad. This is true, but what really counts is the *proportion* of Indians who travel abroad. The same logic must be applied to any metric, for any country.' ---- THE problem is that the CREAM goes abroad .The measurement of cream going abroad / total cream ..... for an activity X as you mentioned. You are right about me being careful. I am out of this thread.Moving to technical stuff.Rather discuss Java .. Thanks for the discussion Kevin.Learnt a lot! Regards, jd On 8/19/10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: > You've got to be be so careful with metrics of any kind comparing countries. > Given any random activity X and country C then the number of people from C > who do X will be proportional to the population of C > > India has a large population, and therefore a large (absolute) number of > Indians travel and work abroad. > This is true, but what really counts is the *proportion* of Indians who > travel abroad. The same logic must be applied to any metric, for any > country. > > The real outliers on any statistical analysis will be the small countries, > usually because they have very, very different natures. > For example, does it even make sense to measure the average age of leaving > education in the Vatican? > > > On 19 August 2010 12:23, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let us stop talkIng about people & discuss why does US have the >> largest number of nobel laureates.. >> >> a) India is beyond comparison ..cannot even imagine the level of >> work,though there is improvement..There are govt schemes to bring back >> scientists who went abroad.sigh..We are not self-sufficient.. >> b) USA has cultivated a liking for nobel laureates - an attractive >> option to think for any researcher.. >> >> Let us find out the things that we could do better to make UK get more >> nobel laureates..and more later.. >> >> Education..quality of research..expert faculty.. >> And just FYI..the maximum number of students who go abroad (us) are >> Indians..why? ask yourself.it is not just money..It is career -the >> chance to do things that they cannot do here./ >> >> I just met a students who was unhappy as he didn't have facilities to >> persue his experiments! And we expect ourselves to win the nobel >> prizes.. >> Face facts..I am judging countries on parameters ..just one >> thing..nobel prizes..who and why.. >> >> Quality matters in science and not the number of people.. >> >> Thanks, >> jd >> >> On 8/19/10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Yeah, Scandinavia pretty much has it right :) >> > >> > But it's so different in so many ways that I could never see the US >> making >> > that transition. >> > The latest health care reforms represent around 0.1% of what would be >> > needed. >> > >> > >> > On 19 August 2010 11:25, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> so which society has it right? I hear good things about Scandinavia or >> >> is that a myth? Or perhaps the Scandinavian model doesn't scale when >> >> you have 50 million+ people.... >> >> >> >> Rakesh >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Kevin Wright < >> [email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > No argument about the UK there, I've worked out that living in just >> the >> >> one >> >> > house with my fiance is financially stupid. >> >> > We just pretend to break up, then she moves into a new place, and >> >> > gets >> >> the >> >> > benefits system to pay her council tax, rent, etc. etc. >> >> > She'd even get cash thrown at her for being a single parent AND >> disabled >> >> > (she gets no disability benefit when living with me, as it's >> >> > means-tested >> >> > against my salary) >> >> > and I think even tax credits on top of her disability allowance, >> because >> >> > being disabled doesn't quite get classified as being jobless >> >> > Even I would be able to pay 25% less council tax, as a single >> resident. >> >> > Between the two of us, the net benefit would easily be over >> £1000/month >> >> > It does make me laugh when I hear government ministers rambling on >> about >> >> how >> >> > they must encourage "family values" >> >> > It's quite simple, start paying people to stay in families, not to >> break >> >> up >> >> > from them. >> >> > >> >> > On 19 August 2010 10:46, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Special Gmail rule? My goodness! It could have been any of us. >> >> >> >> >> >> *runs away screaming* >> >> >> >> >> >> The US does seem to be the land of extremes. I visited Boston and >> >> >> liked it very much but had the impression Boston was one of the >> >> >> extremes and not typical. >> >> >> >> >> >> I see the UK as having the problem that its social welfare system >> >> >> has >> >> >> been totally abused from what it is supposed to do. Lots of things >> >> >> have been done in the name of closing the gap between rich and poor. >> >> >> In the end it seems like those who work hard and educate themselves >> >> >> get nothing (well no help at least, the UK really does nothing to >> look >> >> >> after its professionals and skilled people). There was a time i.e. >> >> >> industrial revolution where trying to even the wealth was prudent >> >> >> and >> >> >> worked out well. These days it feels like the professionals and >> >> >> those >> >> >> who work hard get taxed to death to pay for the people living on >> >> >> welfare. As a cruel twist of irony sometimes our professionals >> >> >> struggle to keep their heads above water while some individuals who >> do >> >> >> not go out to work at all can afford satellite TV and some luxuries >> >> >> which some of our struggling professionals cannot afford. The whole >> >> >> system doesn't seem to encourage people to be sensible and >> >> >> responsible. It is all very wrong. >> >> >> >> >> >> In spite of the US having high percentages of people in Jail count >> >> >> yourselves lucky that you can lock your criminals up. The UK prisons >> >> >> are full so people who really should be going to jail are either >> >> >> having sentences too short or punished some other way. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Well you did murder these people and I would like to send you to >> jail >> >> >> but unfortunately there is no room so we are going to slap you on >> >> >> the >> >> >> wrist and let you go." >> >> >> >> >> >> I suppose it is no surprise that recently it was announced on the >> news >> >> >> that crime levels in the UK have overtaken those in the US. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> >> "The Java Posse" group. >> >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> <javaposse%[email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Kevin Wright >> >> > >> >> > mail/google talk: [email protected] >> >> > wave: [email protected] >> >> > skype: kev.lee.wright >> >> > twitter: @thecoda >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > "The Java Posse" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> <javaposse%[email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "The Java Posse" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> <javaposse%[email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> > >> >> . >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kevin Wright >> > >> > mail/google talk: [email protected] >> > wave: [email protected] >> > skype: kev.lee.wright >> > twitter: @thecoda >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "The Java Posse" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> > >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Kevin Wright > > mail/google talk: [email protected] > wave: [email protected] > skype: kev.lee.wright > twitter: @thecoda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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