Thanks Jitesh. There is so much to know I wonder if its possible to know it all....
Being frightfully attractive also has its downsides. Maybe it may be possible to discuss further around Bernard Manning. Some elephants remember things for a long time they say. Rakesh On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Rakesh. My only concern would be to improve my work and knowledge. > > I guess being a village boy who faced hardships in gaining knowledge > is reason for that... > Heard of Dr Ambedkar or Gandhi by any chance. > > See you in other threads Rakesh..Anything informative to share lately > my friend :).. > > Regards, > JD > > On 8/19/10, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: >> he's a machine goddamit! >> >> Congratulating Casper!!!! Classic!!! >> >> Rakesh >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dear Kevin, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply. >>> >>> 'India has a large population, and therefore a large (absolute) number >>> of Indians travel and work abroad. >>> This is true, but what really counts is the *proportion* of Indians >>> who travel abroad. The same logic must be applied to any metric, for >>> any country.' >>> ---- >>> THE problem is that the CREAM goes abroad .The measurement of >>> >>> cream going abroad / total cream ..... >>> >>> for an activity X as you mentioned. >>> >>> You are right about me being careful. >>> >>> I am out of this thread.Moving to technical stuff.Rather discuss Java .. >>> >>> Thanks for the discussion Kevin.Learnt a lot! >>> >>> Regards, >>> jd >>> >>> On 8/19/10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You've got to be be so careful with metrics of any kind comparing >>>> countries. >>>> Given any random activity X and country C then the number of people from >>>> C >>>> who do X will be proportional to the population of C >>>> >>>> India has a large population, and therefore a large (absolute) number of >>>> Indians travel and work abroad. >>>> This is true, but what really counts is the *proportion* of Indians who >>>> travel abroad. The same logic must be applied to any metric, for any >>>> country. >>>> >>>> The real outliers on any statistical analysis will be the small >>>> countries, >>>> usually because they have very, very different natures. >>>> For example, does it even make sense to measure the average age of >>>> leaving >>>> education in the Vatican? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 19 August 2010 12:23, jitesh dundas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let us stop talkIng about people & discuss why does US have the >>>>> largest number of nobel laureates.. >>>>> >>>>> a) India is beyond comparison ..cannot even imagine the level of >>>>> work,though there is improvement..There are govt schemes to bring back >>>>> scientists who went abroad.sigh..We are not self-sufficient.. >>>>> b) USA has cultivated a liking for nobel laureates - an attractive >>>>> option to think for any researcher.. >>>>> >>>>> Let us find out the things that we could do better to make UK get more >>>>> nobel laureates..and more later.. >>>>> >>>>> Education..quality of research..expert faculty.. >>>>> And just FYI..the maximum number of students who go abroad (us) are >>>>> Indians..why? ask yourself.it is not just money..It is career -the >>>>> chance to do things that they cannot do here./ >>>>> >>>>> I just met a students who was unhappy as he didn't have facilities to >>>>> persue his experiments! And we expect ourselves to win the nobel >>>>> prizes.. >>>>> Face facts..I am judging countries on parameters ..just one >>>>> thing..nobel prizes..who and why.. >>>>> >>>>> Quality matters in science and not the number of people.. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> jd >>>>> >>>>> On 8/19/10, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Yeah, Scandinavia pretty much has it right :) >>>>> > >>>>> > But it's so different in so many ways that I could never see the US >>>>> making >>>>> > that transition. >>>>> > The latest health care reforms represent around 0.1% of what would be >>>>> > needed. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On 19 August 2010 11:25, Rakesh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> so which society has it right? I hear good things about Scandinavia >>>>> >> or >>>>> >> is that a myth? Or perhaps the Scandinavian model doesn't scale when >>>>> >> you have 50 million+ people.... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Rakesh >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Kevin Wright < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> > No argument about the UK there, I've worked out that living in just >>>>> the >>>>> >> one >>>>> >> > house with my fiance is financially stupid. >>>>> >> > We just pretend to break up, then she moves into a new place, and >>>>> >> > gets >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> > benefits system to pay her council tax, rent, etc. etc. >>>>> >> > She'd even get cash thrown at her for being a single parent AND >>>>> disabled >>>>> >> > (she gets no disability benefit when living with me, as it's >>>>> >> > means-tested >>>>> >> > against my salary) >>>>> >> > and I think even tax credits on top of her disability allowance, >>>>> because >>>>> >> > being disabled doesn't quite get classified as being jobless >>>>> >> > Even I would be able to pay 25% less council tax, as a single >>>>> resident. >>>>> >> > Between the two of us, the net benefit would easily be over >>>>> £1000/month >>>>> >> > It does make me laugh when I hear government ministers rambling on >>>>> about >>>>> >> how >>>>> >> > they must encourage "family values" >>>>> >> > It's quite simple, start paying people to stay in families, not to >>>>> break >>>>> >> up >>>>> >> > from them. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On 19 August 2010 10:46, Carl Jokl <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Special Gmail rule? My goodness! It could have been any of us. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> *runs away screaming* >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The US does seem to be the land of extremes. I visited Boston and >>>>> >> >> liked it very much but had the impression Boston was one of the >>>>> >> >> extremes and not typical. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I see the UK as having the problem that its social welfare system >>>>> >> >> has >>>>> >> >> been totally abused from what it is supposed to do. Lots of things >>>>> >> >> have been done in the name of closing the gap between rich and >>>>> >> >> poor. >>>>> >> >> In the end it seems like those who work hard and educate >>>>> >> >> themselves >>>>> >> >> get nothing (well no help at least, the UK really does nothing to >>>>> look >>>>> >> >> after its professionals and skilled people). There was a time i.e. >>>>> >> >> industrial revolution where trying to even the wealth was prudent >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> worked out well. These days it feels like the professionals and >>>>> >> >> those >>>>> >> >> who work hard get taxed to death to pay for the people living on >>>>> >> >> welfare. As a cruel twist of irony sometimes our professionals >>>>> >> >> struggle to keep their heads above water while some individuals >>>>> >> >> who >>>>> do >>>>> >> >> not go out to work at all can afford satellite TV and some >>>>> >> >> luxuries >>>>> >> >> which some of our struggling professionals cannot afford. The >>>>> >> >> whole >>>>> >> >> system doesn't seem to encourage people to be sensible and >>>>> >> >> responsible. It is all very wrong. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> In spite of the US having high percentages of people in Jail count >>>>> >> >> yourselves lucky that you can lock your criminals up. The UK >>>>> >> >> prisons >>>>> >> >> are full so people who really should be going to jail are either >>>>> >> >> having sentences too short or punished some other way. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> "Well you did murder these people and I would like to send you to >>>>> jail >>>>> >> >> but unfortunately there is no room so we are going to slap you on >>>>> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> wrist and let you go." >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I suppose it is no surprise that recently it was announced on the >>>>> news >>>>> >> >> that crime levels in the UK have overtaken those in the US. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> -- >>>>> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> >> Groups >>>>> >> >> "The Java Posse" group. >>>>> >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> >> >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >>>>> <javaposse%[email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> >> . 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