Ok, I'll come clean.  The point is that a relatively common Java idiom
(that I dislike), multiple constructors in a subclass that call an
equivalent constructor in a superclass cannot be translated as-is to
Scala, as Scala's secondary constructors (def this..) implicitly call
the primary constructor.  You will have to change that code quite a
lot to translate it to Scala, and the interface to it will have
changed.  paulp found this when trying to automatically translate Java
to Scala.

The difficulty is not necessarily a bad thing, but I think it's a code
sample that answers your original question.

Ricky.

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On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> Or without the obfuscation :)
> def countFor(x : Int) = 2
> def countFor(x : Float) = 3
>
> On 10 September 2010 12:27, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That won't compile, but if I fix the obvious problems then you're left
>> with a change to which things happen.  When you do new Y(3) in the
>> original, X's constructor that takes an int will be called.  An
>> alteration to make this clear follows, but I am trying to point out a
>> difference that makes converting from (poor) Java to Scala difficult.
>>
>> class X {
>>   public int count;
>>
>>   public X(int x) {
>>     count = 2;
>>   }
>>
>>   public X(float x) {
>>     count = 3;
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> class Y extends X {
>>   public Y(int x) {
>>       super(x * 2);
>>   }
>>
>>   public Y(float x) {
>>       super(x * 2);
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> class YTest {
>>  public void testY() {
>>    assert new Y(0.5F).count == 3 && new Y(5).count == 2;
>>  }
>> }
>>
>> Ricky.
>>
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>> Skype: ricky_clarkson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Kevin Wright <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > easy!  It does absolutely nothing, so the obvious improvement in both
>> > languages is not to write it at all...
>> > But if you absolutely must keep the interface (mocking perhaps?) then:
>> > class X(x: Float) {
>> >  def this(x2: Int) = this(x2)
>> > }
>> > class Y(y: Float) extends X(y) {
>> >   def this(y2: Int) = this(y2)
>> > }
>> >
>> > On 10 September 2010 12:01, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> class X {
>> >>    public X(int x) {
>> >>    }
>> >>
>> >>    public X(float x) {
>> >>    }
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> class Y extends X {
>> >>    public Y(int x) {
>> >>        super(x * 2);
>> >>    }
>> >>
>> >>    public Y(float x) {
>> >>        super(x * 2);
>> >>    }
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >> Ricky.
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> +44 1928 706373
>> >> Skype: ricky_clarkson
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Kevin Wright
>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I'll throw down the gauntlet then...
>> >> > Can anyone provide an example of Java code that's can't be improved
>> >> > by
>> >> > writing it in Scala
>> >> > Or Scala code that can be improved by writing it in Java (but can't
>> >> > be
>> >> > improved by just rewriting within Scala)
>> >> > By "improve", I mean that the code is better with regards to one (or
>> >> > more)
>> >> > of the following:
>> >> > - readability (how quickly can another developer, familiar with the
>> >> > language, understand the code)
>> >> > - maintainability (how much work is involved in a simple refactoring)
>> >> > - thread safety
>> >> > But doesn't sacrifice any of the above qualities.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10 September 2010 11:45, Steven Herod <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This thread would be a lot better, faster and easier to read and
>> >> >> reply
>> >> >> to if it were written in Scala.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sep 10, 8:42 pm, Ricky Clarkson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > Ok, conspiracy theory time!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Reinier, the initiator of this thread, works on Project Lombok,
>> >> >> > which
>> >> >> > uses annotation processing to add language features to Java.
>> >> >> > Therefore, isn't it in his interest to discourage uptake of Scala
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > Clojure?  Could he be trying to assert that all Scala users are
>> >> >> > fanboys to try to discourage associating oneself with Scala?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Of course, I jest.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ricky.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
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>> >> >> > +44 1928 706373
>> >> >> > Skype: ricky_clarkson
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Wildam Martin
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:44, Kevin Wright
>> >> >> > > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > >> But given the resistance I'm seeing to even small differences
>> >> >> > >> between
>> >> >> > >> Java/Scala syntax, I suspect that Clojure will be far too
>> >> >> > >> radical
>> >> >> > >> for
>> >> >> > >> most
>> >> >> > >> institutionalised Java developers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Somehow this sounds as Java developers are considered as not
>> >> >> > > being
>> >> >> > > very flexible - all the Scala and Clojure or whatever else
>> >> >> > > JVM-language programmers should remember, that most of them
>> >> >> > > probably
>> >> >> > > have been Java developers also for quite a long time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Anyway, if it continues that way (if you need to address each
>> >> >> > > single
>> >> >> > > language-fan-boy begging for not turning a thread into trash) I
>> >> >> > > will
>> >> >> > > somewhat stop following the javaposse google group.
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>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >http://www.google.com/profiles/mwildam
>> >> >> >
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