And you've never seen crappy native Cocoa apps on the Mac?

This is the *exact* same argument that arose when Apple banned Flash-
ported application on the iPhone. Yes, the default behavior looks like
crap. So does the default behavior even when using Interface Builder.
It takes a skilled designer to develop a nice looking UI, regardless
of the underlying platform or technology.

And the "correct" response to the argument is, let the market decide.
Crappy apps won't sell. Great ones will. Implementation technology is
irrelevant.


But getting back to the main topic: if the only reason Apple has
decided to kill its JVM is so Java developers won't be able to submit
apps to the Mac App store, that seems pretty heavy handed to me.

Rob

On Oct 20, 11:57 pm, Josh McDonald <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd say neither. It just means you can't sell Java apps through the Mac
> store. Makes sense to me, they want quality control, and the only Java app
> I've ever seen that feels remotely like it belongs on OS X is Cyberduck. Two
> minutes with soapUI on a Mac would make anybody think twice about giving
> Java apps the tacit approval that comes with sale in the official store.
>
> -Josh
>
> On 21 October 2010 16:48, Jan Goyvaerts™ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Doesn't it simply mean Apple is no longer maintaining the JVM ? Or will
> > they actively block Java from running on Mac OS ?
>
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 08:05, robross <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Just in time for the Mac app store announcement? Timing is really
> >> suspicious, and the App store does not support deprecated
> >> technologies, like Java!
>
> >> Mac App Store Review Guidelines
>
> >> "Apps must contain all language support in a single app bundle (single
> >> binary multiple language). Apps that spawn processes that continue to
> >> run after a user has quit the app without user consent will be
> >> rejected. Apps that use deprecated or optionally installed
> >> technologies (e.g., Java, [PowerPC code requiring] Rosetta) will be
> >> rejected.
>
> >> Crazy!
>
> >> Crazy!
>
> >> Is Oracle going to provide the JDK/JRE for Mac OX now? Is OpenJDK7
> >> going to implement AWT/Swing/Java2D on top of Cocoa?
>
> >> Please, someone do something! Don't make me have to  use Windows
> >> machines!! :-()
>
> >> Source:
>
> >>http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeo...
>
> >> Rob
>
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