On Oct 21, 11:44 am, "Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse)" <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't have time or energy to read this whole thread, and I'm quite > sure we'll talk about this in our next recording (tonight), but I want > to at least chime in with some simple thoughts: > > 1) I think this means that Apple is scaling back their internal Java > team to bare-bones.
Well, my inside source told me recently that Apple's entire Java team consists of four (4) people. How much more bare bones can you get than this? > Apple doesn't *need* to > make a JavaVM for their business any more, so they're not going to > continue doing it. Like it or not, at least Apple makes intelligent > business decisions - based on *their* business, not yours! True, but they are going to lose money on this decision, as developers and companies that would have continued to purchase Macs now purchase other hardware instead. > > 2) They put stuff in place (read the whole "new and noteworthy > section") to make 3rd party Java VMs place nice in the system. This, > in my opinion, is a maneuver to invite others to fill the void they > are about to leave. Again, true, but just because they have made the invitation doesn't mean anyone is going to RSVP. > > 3) If the Mac is an important target for a Java VM (which it certainly > is in my and many others' opinion - at least for development), then > someone (likely Oracle) will need to step up and supply a good up-to- > date Java VM for the Mac. > > 4) Finally, I think this will happen - and I think life will go on as > normal with lots of folks using Macs for Java development - but > they'll be using an up-to-date JavaVM from Oracle or someone like > that. If you squint a little bit, this actually might be a good thing > for Java on the Mac. I'm usually an optimist, but I don't see any upside for Oracle in doing this. Unlike Apple, Oracle won't make any money if people buy Macs because Oracle provides a free Java JDK. On the other hand, if Java were really to die on Mac OS, developers and companies do not stop developing in Java, they stop using Apple hardware. So no negative effect on Oracle, and they've saved themselves the cost of creating a Mac OS Java port. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
