Why? Folks keep saying this but I simply don't understand why.

It's at the same time better and worse than what you're saying, but
mostly you're just plain wrong.

It's better in that (A) If you don't do any swing stuff (and who
does?), this news is irrelevant, and (B) If you *DO* do swing stuff,
you can still develop on macs. You'll just be looking at X/Motif
instead of apple's chrome.... at least until someone ports swing to
cocoa. Why would you have to boot into windows or linux? If you're a
netbeans or IntelliJ user you'll have to get used to motif chrome....
which looks mostly the same as your linux based IntelliJ or netbeans.
So, suggesting you dual boot so that you can get the exact same thing
there, is a very strange thing to say.

It's worse in that you can't deploy your swing apps to macs anymore
without also shipping a VM to go with it, meaning that you're screwed
if your plan was applets or webstart, and even if it wasn't, its going
to look out of place on a mac (again, at least until someone ports
swing to cocoa) and requires you to put in the effort to build a mac-
specific installer (at least, until someone builds a launch4j-like
tool to take care of it for you, and remember that launch4j can create
windows exes on linux and macs too. I see no reason why a mac version
of this tool would require a mac to run). Installing a dual boot
option on your own mac doesn't change these facts at all, so I'm
mystified as to what the point of that would be.

On Oct 27, 1:17 pm, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote:
> Realistically, I think serious Java developers who use Macs are going to
> have to dual-boot into Windows or Linux -- at least if they're doing
> anything that's not strictly server-side.
>
> That's what every Mac owner wanted anyway, a really cute machine running
> Linux, right?  :-|
>
> On 10/27/2010 6:07 AM, Mark Volkmann wrote:
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> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Neil Bartlett<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> Fabrizio,
>
> >> Wrong and wrong again.
>
> >> First, 90% of Java developers do not use Swing or AWT.
> > I question that percentage. Maybe my company is an exception, but we
> > have had and continue to have many consulting projects that use Swing.
> > I'm working on two Swing applications for a client right now. They
> > both involve heavy use of JTables with custom table models.
>
> > I do my development on a Mac and deliver double-clickable JAR files to
> > users that run them under Windows.

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