Good point. If I had the time and the expertise, I'd love to write a
library that lets you deploy apps as native executables on all major
platforms, containing a webkit with some very basically moddable
chrome around it (logo, title name, some buttons, not much more),
which starts a jetty server, and all you have to do is write the app
as a servlet. Sounds to me like a FAR nicer environment for
programming a GUI than swing, though not quite as nice as JavaFX.
Close though. If you are assured you can use all the latest and
greatest HTML features because of a guaranteed updated webkit running
your webapp, programming in vanilla HTML+CSS+JavaScript is great. For
macs it could include a JVM :0

Unfortunately that's not really my forté :(

On Oct 28, 3:29 pm, Ruben Reusser <[email protected]> wrote:
> We're currently working on a desktop app using a java backend and an extjs
> frontend with an embedded browser. It's more of a business app but it seems
> to work quite well. It looks good out of the box, the components are feature
> rich and the developers are already familiar with the concepts. The
> application can run as a desktop app or as a web application. Seems to me an
> easier approach than writing a Swing app with more bang for the buck (don't
> get me wrong, I love swing)
>
> Ruben
>
> [1]http://ruben42.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/writing-a-thick-client-java-a...
>
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 6:21 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > But then I think of Eclipse/Netbeans and I wonder. Could you write
> > > those in say, Javascript w/Canvas (thinking Bespin), dash of platform
> > > specific C++ for bottlenecks?
>
> > Yes.
>
> > > Or maybe in Adobe Air?
>
> > As dead as java desktop is.
>
> > > What does the future really hold for Java on the desktop? A rebirth, a
> > > slow death, ???
>
> > Was it ever born, then? It's always been a dream, it never came true,
> > and now it never will. Shame, but, worse things have happened.
>
> > In the mean time, in user-hours, the vast majority of applications run
> > on java. I'm considering the web as applications too, and I count it
> > as "written in java" if the backend involved significant amounts of
> > java. So, in that sense, "desktop" java is #1, has been for years, and
> > will be for years to come.

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