Very interesting idea. Isn't this basically how Palm's WebOS works?

You can already do something quite close to this in SWT. The built-in
Browser control uses WebKit by default on a number of platforms, and
you can use ordinary SWT controls for the surrounding chrome.

Neil

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
> Good point. If I had the time and the expertise, I'd love to write a
> library that lets you deploy apps as native executables on all major
> platforms, containing a webkit with some very basically moddable
> chrome around it (logo, title name, some buttons, not much more),
> which starts a jetty server, and all you have to do is write the app
> as a servlet. Sounds to me like a FAR nicer environment for
> programming a GUI than swing, though not quite as nice as JavaFX.
> Close though. If you are assured you can use all the latest and
> greatest HTML features because of a guaranteed updated webkit running
> your webapp, programming in vanilla HTML+CSS+JavaScript is great. For
> macs it could include a JVM :0
>
> Unfortunately that's not really my forté :(
>
> On Oct 28, 3:29 pm, Ruben Reusser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We're currently working on a desktop app using a java backend and an extjs
>> frontend with an embedded browser. It's more of a business app but it seems
>> to work quite well. It looks good out of the box, the components are feature
>> rich and the developers are already familiar with the concepts. The
>> application can run as a desktop app or as a web application. Seems to me an
>> easier approach than writing a Swing app with more bang for the buck (don't
>> get me wrong, I love swing)
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>> [1]http://ruben42.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/writing-a-thick-client-java-a...
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 27, 6:21 pm, CKoerner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > But then I think of Eclipse/Netbeans and I wonder. Could you write
>> > > those in say, Javascript w/Canvas (thinking Bespin), dash of platform
>> > > specific C++ for bottlenecks?
>>
>> > Yes.
>>
>> > > Or maybe in Adobe Air?
>>
>> > As dead as java desktop is.
>>
>> > > What does the future really hold for Java on the desktop? A rebirth, a
>> > > slow death, ???
>>
>> > Was it ever born, then? It's always been a dream, it never came true,
>> > and now it never will. Shame, but, worse things have happened.
>>
>> > In the mean time, in user-hours, the vast majority of applications run
>> > on java. I'm considering the web as applications too, and I count it
>> > as "written in java" if the backend involved significant amounts of
>> > java. So, in that sense, "desktop" java is #1, has been for years, and
>> > will be for years to come.
>
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