I wonder what the stats would look like if you throw in yet another
variable: Java programmer footprint. I can't help thinking that the
Java programmers that about 80% of the Java programmers that make a
difference are on Mac. And they probably use IntelliJ. I know of only
one that used NetBeans, but recently started using Eclipse.

And really, the only thing companies should be worried about when
getting hardware for there developers is: what's the hardware these
developers want? Getting slightly lower prized hardware, causing your
best developers to walk away is just irrational. I am just saying: for
software development companies, there *is* a business reason: allowing
your people with the tools they like will buy you a kind of commitment
that is priceless.

To be honest, I'd be perfectly happy if Apple would give up on Java on
their platform *if they would be in heavy weather, and be forced to
reduce costs*. But in reality, they seem to be doing pretty well, and
I think it's crazy to think that it this kind of cost reduction will
have an impact on their margins. However, forcing people to decide
between Objective-C and Java could have an impact in the long run. It
looks like the good ol' game of chicken, if you ask me.

On Nov 7, 8:03 pm, Sean Comerford <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mac's are overpriced. Comapnies buying computers for a bunch of employees
> don't buy Mac's unless there is a specific business reason (i.e. they need
> some mac only software).
>
> <10% of Java devs on Mac's sounds right to me.
>
> So I don't blame Apple for deprecating Java. Especially since it
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Do you have mind-reading capabilities? :-) It's precisely one of the
> > > things that I'm experimenting with.
>
> > Heh well it seems like an obvious "next step" in virtualization, and
> > what developer couldn't use the ability to fire up an arbitrary mix of
> > versioned OS images? :)
>
> > > BTW, at this point, it would be nice to know if anybody else has tried
> > > the same, or knows something like that.
>
> > I have only investigated it partly. Dual-booting Ubuntu + Windows,
> > telling VirtualBox to use the native Windows partition as image within
> > Ubuntu (only works with post-XP, since you require multiple hardware
> > profiles). However I don't like the fact that you have to designate a
> > master/host, although I suppose a very simple bootstrapping Linux
> > image could be used solely to launch a *real* desktop OS (Linux/OSX/
> > Windows) - is that what you are attempting?
>
> > My experiences are that graphics can be a bitch, but speed feels as
> > good as native when running from off an SSD. As you already mentioned
> > accessing a universal filesystem is a tricky quest for the lowest
> > common denominator. Though I had good success with the EXT2 IFS driver
> > for Windows running up against an ext3 data partition, except one has
> > to live with non-journaling.
>
> > In any event, looking forward to reading your blog post.
>
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