Memory that goes into macbooks is no different from memory that goes
into PC laptops. Standard SO-DIMMs. It used to be true that if you pre-
ordered your machine straight from apple with extra RAM in it, they'd
charge you a completely ridiculous price for the upgrade, though I
hear this is no longer true. I don't mind much - all laptops they've
built since I started using them have very easily replaceable memory,
so I always just upgraded them myself.

I have no idea why SSDs are even relevant; macs either (A) have a
harddisk which is fully replaceable and uses standard SATA connectors.
You can stick an SSD in there, or not, up to you, or (B) In the new
macbook airs, just released a week or two ago, there's no user-
replaceable disk at all. They ship with an SSD soldered straight onto
the motherboard. Sure, that gets annoying if you want to upgrade part
of your hardware, but if you care about that, you probably shouldn't
buy a tiny 11" waferthin notebook. I doubt dell or asus could build
them that small with that featureset without resorting to similar
tricks such as soldering the contents of an SSD drive into the nooks
and crannies of the available space.

On Nov 8, 4:00 pm, Casper Bang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Playing the devils advocate, there's a slightly more nuanced aspect to
> the "Apple tax" issue though, than just the one-time purchase.
> According to Joe [http://goo.gl/SN0lD], RAM is 3x as expensive than
> retail. And getting an SSD is also about twice as expensive as retail
> (on top of that, OSX doesn't even support TRIM [http://goo.gl/asm9g]).
> So taken into long-term context, it's hardly a slight issue for any
> company with more than a few dozen developers craving new Mac hardware
> every time Steve rolls up his sleeves.... ehh turtleneck.
>
> On Nov 8, 3:18 pm, Kevin Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > And really, the only thing companies should be worried about when
> > > getting hardware for there developers is: what's the hardware these
> > > developers want? Getting slightly lower prized hardware, causing your
> > > best developers to walk away is just irrational. I am just saying: for
> > > software development companies, there *is* a business reason: allowing
> > > your people with the tools they like will buy you a kind of commitment
> > > that is priceless.
>
> > +1
>
> > Yes, I'm often surprised at how nit-picky some companies get about the cost
> > of computers. Especially when you calculate:
>
> > a) The cost difference of equipment as measured in man-days when compared to
> > a developer's salary.
>
> > b) The number of man days lost to the obligatory Windows anti-virus
> > (especially expensive for activities that touch a lot of files - like
> > compiling source code) and to idiosyncrasies of the Windows' command line;
> > it can't take that long to recoup the extra cost of a Mac just by being able
> > to use cmd+c / cmd+v.
>
> > --
> > Kevin Wright
>
> > mail / gtalk / msn : [email protected]
> > pulse / skype: kev.lee.wright
> > twitter: @thecoda

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