To clarify a few things I think my initial statement was too brash.  I do
think Bob has and does deliver a lot for the Java community, however I
retain my belief in the JCP vote went the best way.

My frustration is this. The reaction to pull out of the expert groups seems
to me at least partly reactionary to the way the JCP vote went, and this is
a sad thing.  I cant help to think this based on these two blog entries.  I
think if you have this opportunity it is best to participate in these
experts groups as this is the best way to address any grievances you have.

2010/12/3 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>

>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Alan Kent <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Liam, see his later post
>> http://blog.crazybob.org/2010/11/java-se-7-8.html where he pulled out -
>> "In spite of and because of my commitment to Java, I had to decline an
>> invitation to join the Java SE 7 and 8 expert groups".  You must have seen
>> the earlier post and missed the later post, causing the confusion.
>>
>
> Bob applied to be a part of the JCP EC and he didn't get elected because he
> didn't get enough votes.
>
> He was then invited to be part of two Expert Groups for these two JSR,
> which he declined.
>
> It's admittedly a bit confusing, but Liam has been right since the
> beginning about this.
>
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