I think this is very short sighted. What gives Google, Oracle or anyone else divine rights to influence a language invented by one man?
Oracle is as much about cash as Credit Suisse. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Miroslav Pokorny < [email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:30 AM, victorg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I manage several projects at Credit Suisse and I can tell you we do >> rely heavily on Spring in all of them. >> In addition, some of our highest profile applications make liberal use >> of reflection. >> >> I am extremely impressed by the degree to which Credit Suisse adapts >> the latest technologies and really pushes the envelope on Java. Having >> worked for several major banks in my career, I can say that in an >> enterprise our size that is extremely rare. In addition, we have some >> of the smartest people I have ever worked with making some amazing >> decisions about architecture and direction. >> >> I can testify that the points your interviewees have mentioned were >> nothing more than unfounded rumors - no smoke, no fire! >> >> I am proud that Credit Suisse is on the JCP and I think we have some >> of the best experience in the world with concepts such as money and >> time, to help drive some really important JSR's in a direction that >> will be meaningful to the financial markets as well as the software >> development community at large. >> >> > But given CS is all about finance what has that got to do w/ Java 7 and > Java 8 in terms of determing if they are a good or bad idea or perhaps need > comments so something is fixed or altered ? Finance and a computer language > are quite different. I would suggest that a bank and similar institutions > make sense when defining a JSR for Money and similarly related business > activities but not a computer langauge. > > >> This is an expensive endeavor for us but we are taking it extremely >> seriously, dedicating a huge amount of staff and resources to it. >> >> We will look forward to the contribution of the Java development >> community at large as we sponsor new JSR's >> >> Thanks, Victor Grazi >> VP Application Development >> Credit Suisse. >> >> Please follow the attached hyperlink to an important disclosure: >> http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/marketcommentary >> >> On Dec 7, 7:22 pm, Liam Knox <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I have heard from several candidates that I have interviewed that Credit >> > Suisse, on Java, forbid any use of Reflection by their developers and >> are >> > anti-Spring. I really hope that this is not really a company wide policy >> for >> > any company on the JCP. >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Miroslav Pokorny < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > How did Credit Suisse become a member of the JCP ? I assumed from >> their >> > > name they are a bank, and as such produce a lot of inhouse custom >> software >> > > but very little software for everyone else. For me this should >> disqualify >> > > them, as their motives become purely selfish while a company or group, >> doing >> > > foss or selling software is actually part of the mainstream and not so >> > > focused. >> > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > > "The Java Posse" group. >> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> > > . >> > > For more options, visit this group at >> > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "The Java Posse" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mP > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<javaposse%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
