Semantics aside, I think what was being suggested is not so much abandonment of 
JEE (irrespective of what the article said), but utilizing "lighter" app 
servers 
that support only a subset of the JEE spec, such as Tomcat, over the likes of 
JBoss.  Valid point, IMO.

 Alexey





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From: Augusto Sellhorn <[email protected]>
To: The Java Posse <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 2:03:26 PM
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Integration Watch: Java EE: The dead man walking

On Jan 19, 12:29 pm, Blanford <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have heard this from many well known environments.
> I personally have never worked in an environment where a JEE solution
> was necessary.

Perhaps this is the problem, it doesn't seem that you're that familiar
with what JEE is and what it aims to solve.

As has been pointed out, some of the technologies you mentioned are
part of the JEE spec;
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/tech/index.html

Just look at the list, note that it even includes an API for REST
services. So again, saying using a JEE servlet container (tomcat,
jetty, etc) doesn't mean JEE is dead.

I think your rant is really against EJBs, but maybe you want to be a
bit more specific. I will say one thing, I've seen the opposite of
what you mentioned happen, people hosting applications on tomcat with
a servlet front end when the app would have been better served with
EJBs at its core instead.

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