I fully agree with lighter app servers and love the EE6 spec with the
implementation of profiles.  They allow you to have as light an app
server as you need - nothing is loaded until it is needed.  OSGi-based
app servers (GlassFish, JBoss, etc) are doing great things in not only
realizing this part of the specification, but also exposing the OSGi
container up to the applications, allowing for even more modularity to
the developer.

EE6 is the current technology, but I feel, IMHO, that the OSGi EE
implementations will be the future.

S

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Alexey Zinger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Semantics aside, I think what was being suggested is not so much abandonment
> of JEE (irrespective of what the article said), but utilizing "lighter" app
> servers that support only a subset of the JEE spec, such as Tomcat, over the
> likes of JBoss.  Valid point, IMO.
>
> Alexey
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Augusto Sellhorn <[email protected]>
> To: The Java Posse <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 2:03:26 PM
> Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Integration Watch: Java EE: The dead man
> walking
>
> On Jan 19, 12:29 pm, Blanford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I have heard this from many well known environments.
>> I personally have never worked in an environment where a JEE solution
>> was necessary.
>
> Perhaps this is the problem, it doesn't seem that you're that familiar
> with what JEE is and what it aims to solve.
>
> As has been pointed out, some of the technologies you mentioned are
> part of the JEE spec;
> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/tech/index.html
>
> Just look at the list, note that it even includes an API for REST
> services. So again, saying using a JEE servlet container (tomcat,
> jetty, etc) doesn't mean JEE is dead.
>
> I think your rant is really against EJBs, but maybe you want to be a
> bit more specific. I will say one thing, I've seen the opposite of
> what you mentioned happen, people hosting applications on tomcat with
> a servlet front end when the app would have been better served with
> EJBs at its core instead.
>
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