My recommendations are:
1) read "JavaScript the Good Parts" and possibly "JavaScript Patterns"
2) follow their advice
3) use JSLint to improve your JavaScript code
4) use a good JavaScript library like JQuery, including it's Ajax capabilities
5) learn and use FireBug

It really isn't that bad if you do those things.

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Ken Egervari <[email protected]> wrote:
> This might not be the best place to post this, but I value the people
> that frequent this forum and I do work in the Java/Spring/Hibernate
> space.
>
> My apps that I'm working on are getting to be more and more javascript
> focused. This has brought on all kinds of pain and complexity from my
> point of view... but it's become necessary to be competitive and offer
> user experiences that are more modern and what people expect.
>
> I was wondering how you guys managed this complexity? What tools,
> frameworks, libraries, etc. do you think work the best with a Java/
> Spring way of doing things.
>
> It seems that even beyond browser problems and the limitations of the
> language, maintaining the server/client contracts with ajax requests
> is a pain to test and refactor as the system evolves. The lack of
> dependency management in javascript is a pain, and RequireJS doesn't
> work 100% - sometimes it doesn't load the files and you have to
> refresh the page to fix it.
>
> There are all sorts of other problems. It's like javascript hell
> sometimes.
>
> I am starting to wonder if the pain is even worth the cost. I actually
> can't stand that development has gone this way. Programming just isn't
> fun anymore. There's so many tools and technologies. You think that
> with some things getting more rational and easier, other things end up
> blowing everything up. I mean, this whole polygot approach is driving
> me nuts. I can accomplish the same thing in a Swing application, but
> just because it needs to be "on the web", it makes the same
> application so much harder to deal with.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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