on Gavin's Blog he explains the "joined at the hip with xml". "So why a new language? Well, we've been designing and building frameworks and libraries for Java for ten years, and we know its limitations intimately. And we're frustrated. I'm not going to recap all the frustrations here. (I've listed some of them in the first presentation.) But I guess I should mention that the number one technical problem that we simply can't solve to our satisfaction in Java - or in any other existing JVM language - is the problem of defining user interfaces and structured data using a typesafe, hierarchical syntax. Without a solution to this problem, Java remains joined at the hip to XML. "
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mark Volkmann <[email protected]>wrote: > On one of Gavin's slides he says: > > "Java is joined at the hip with XML, and this hurts almost every Java > developer almost every day" > > Really? In what way is Java joined at the hip with XML? Just because > some people use Ant and some people using XML for Spring > configuration? I don't see how this is related to Java the language. > Does it really hurt most Java developers most days? I really doubt > that. I think most Java developers go days on end without seeing any > XML. > > There are many valid reasons to dislike Java, but XML is not one of them. > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Serge Boulay <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Another language in the works. Let the Scala vs "Ceylon project" wars > begin. > > > > > http://devstonez.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/introducing-the-ceylon-project-gavin-king-presentation-at-qcon-beijing-2011/ > > > http://blog.talawah.net/2011/04/gavin-king-unviels-red-hats-top-secret.html > > -- > R. Mark Volkmann > Object Computing, Inc. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
