2011/4/13 Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]>

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>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Mark Volkmann 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> On one of Gavin's slides he says:
>>
>> "Java is joined at the hip with XML, and this hurts almost every Java
>> developer almost every day"
>>
>> Really? In what way is Java joined at the hip with XML?
>>
>
> Yes, I was a bit puzzled by that as well. Scala is much more "joined at the
> hip" with XML because of its support for XML literals, but I don't see
> anything intrinsic to Java that makes it tied to XML.
>
>
My thoughts exactly.



> Another thing that puzzles me about Ceylon is the timing: Gavin says that
> he and his team have been working on it for two years and yet they don't
> even have a prototype to show. Reaching such a stage should take a few
> months to one programmer.
>
>
Couldn't agree more, it all seems very odd to have taken so long, and
there's definitely a "me too" air to the whole thing.  I find it very hard
to believe that they weren't aware of other languages already available that
achieve the same goals - except maybe that brief teasing mention of a module
system.



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