On 6 May 2011, at 08:39, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yup, Jetty is there. But when I did take a look and pretty much everything 
> else I came up with was an eclipse plug-in of some sort. I've had others 
> suggest different projects that appeared to be something different but at the 
> end of the day, what was there was an eclipse plug-in to make it easier to 
> use said project... which is ok.. It just makes Hudson an odd ball in the 
> inventory. But then Jetty is there also so... 

don't forget Eclipse Orion... http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion

besides, once we finish migrating Hudson core onto OSGi then it too becomes a 
set of bundles / plug-ins

> It's just funny that Jenkins splits from Hudson because Oracle 
> miscommunicates with the community and then Oracle dumps it into the EF with 
> no visible consultation with the what was left of the community....

um, the proposal is the start of the consultation - you need an initial 
proposal for people to discuss and comment on

I guess there could always have been a pre-proposal-proposal, etc. ;) But 
seriously, this is exactly the time for people to comment and feedback on the 
proposal forum:

http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=208592&start=0&S=0890746b681a33b7c46c12f956af071c

and just to make clear - this isn't a project being dumped over the wall, that 
would never get through the full Eclipse proposal process; which tries to make 
sure there's a growing, active, involved community around the project

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Cheers, Stuart

> On May 6, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Neil Bartlett wrote:
> 
>>> I'm just scratching my head trying to figure out why the Eclipse Foundation 
>>> would be considered a good landing spot for a project that is very far away 
>>> from all of the other projects there.
>> 
>> Well then Kirk, look again at the projects that are currently hosted
>> at Eclipse. Hudson will fit in very well... especially once it runs on
>> top of OSGi (Equinox), uses embedded Jetty (also Eclipse project) and
>> it integrates with Mylyn (Eclipse project) and JGit/EGit (both Eclipse
>> projects).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Neil
>> 
>> The only thing I can come up with is that they are hoping to piggyback
>> on the success of the Eclipse IDE. It all seems like a reaction to
>> Jenkins.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Kirk
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Phil wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I caught this earlier today. I hope it is viewed as a positive move,
>>>> not least because Oracle have in effect agreed, eventually, with those
>>>> who created Jenkins. Ideally this would be the beginning of a
>>>> reconciliation and 'join'.
>>> 
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