I don't believe the classloader problem will be solved in 8 but I'm not 100% 
what changes will come with Jigsaw. I do know that in some cases using 
alternate reference types can solve the problem. As people find bad 
relationships and file bugs, these do get fixed so I expect it will get better 
over time.

Regards,
Kirk

On May 23, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:

> if it's a class loader problem, is this going to be the same for JDK8 ? I 
> mean, with Jigsaw they intend to change all this class loading. Or not ?
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:49, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Perm space has been removed from special builds of the JVM. That said, it 
> will not get rid of the problem, all JVMs no matter who makes them... leak 
> and you *will* run out of memory.
> 
> Regards,
> Kirk
> 
> On May 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
> 
> >> Calling it a perm space problem *is* wrong. It's a problem with 
> >> classloaders.
> >
> > Different view on the same matter, which is rather irrelevant when the
> > maintenance people call in panic due to red flagged Sysorb messages!
> > Then it becomes a problem with Java and specifically hitting the hard
> > ceiling of the GC PermGen region. The fact that so many apps leak
> > memory unknowingly, and that they are working on removing PermGen,
> > suggests this is a common and valid interpretation.
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