To "get rid of the old ways of classloading" would mean breaking
almost every Java library and application ever written... so, no they
won't be doing that!

On May 23, 3:28 pm, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote:
> I thought their intention was to get rid of the old ways of classloading,
> classpath, ...
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> Ahwel... we'll see :-)
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> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 16:15, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I don't believe the classloader problem will be solved in 8 but I'm not
> > 100% what changes will come with Jigsaw. I do know that in some cases using
> > alternate reference types can solve the problem. As people find bad
> > relationships and file bugs, these do get fixed so I expect it will get
> > better over time.
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> > Regards,
> > Kirk
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> > On May 23, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
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> > if it's a class loader problem, is this going to be the same for JDK8 ? I
> > mean, with Jigsaw they intend to change all this class loading. Or not ?
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> > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:49, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >> Perm space has been removed from special builds of the JVM. That said, it
> >> will not get rid of the problem, all JVMs no matter who makes them... leak
> >> and you *will* run out of memory.
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> >> Regards,
> >> Kirk
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> >> On May 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
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> >> >> Calling it a perm space problem *is* wrong. It's a problem with
> >> classloaders.
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> >> > Different view on the same matter, which is rather irrelevant when the
> >> > maintenance people call in panic due to red flagged Sysorb messages!
> >> > Then it becomes a problem with Java and specifically hitting the hard
> >> > ceiling of the GC PermGen region. The fact that so many apps leak
> >> > memory unknowingly, and that they are working on removing PermGen,
> >> > suggests this is a common and valid interpretation.
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