I thought their intention was to get rid of the old ways of classloading,
classpath, ...

Ahwel... we'll see :-)

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 16:15, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't believe the classloader problem will be solved in 8 but I'm not
> 100% what changes will come with Jigsaw. I do know that in some cases using
> alternate reference types can solve the problem. As people find bad
> relationships and file bugs, these do get fixed so I expect it will get
> better over time.
>
> Regards,
> Kirk
>
> On May 23, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
>
> if it's a class loader problem, is this going to be the same for JDK8 ? I
> mean, with Jigsaw they intend to change all this class loading. Or not ?
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:49, Kirk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Perm space has been removed from special builds of the JVM. That said, it
>> will not get rid of the problem, all JVMs no matter who makes them... leak
>> and you *will* run out of memory.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kirk
>>
>> On May 23, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
>>
>> >> Calling it a perm space problem *is* wrong. It's a problem with
>> classloaders.
>> >
>> > Different view on the same matter, which is rather irrelevant when the
>> > maintenance people call in panic due to red flagged Sysorb messages!
>> > Then it becomes a problem with Java and specifically hitting the hard
>> > ceiling of the GC PermGen region. The fact that so many apps leak
>> > memory unknowingly, and that they are working on removing PermGen,
>> > suggests this is a common and valid interpretation.
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