I'm away on a first nations reserve for a few days, but I'll happily bring
this to Oracle afterwards.  Or someone can get hold of Dalibor Topic or one
of the community team to discuss it a little more quickly.  Always good to
get these things cleared up

Cheers,
Martijn

On Saturday, 30 July 2011, martin_clausen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know what the motive behind this specific license construct
> is.
>
> I do know that it makes it very easy to get into what Oracle could
> view as a non-compliance situation as most developers / ops persons
> perceive Java to be freely available (with the exception of Java ME),
> and will happily install the "Commercial Features" without realizing
> the consequences. Oracle hasn't exactly made it easy to discover this
> by making the "Commercial Features" subject to the same license (with
> the built in exception) as Java 7 SE.
>
> /mac
>
> On Jul 30, 7:10 pm, Martijn Verburg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It's good that these things get raised.
>>
>> My IANAL take on this. Despite the legal language changes, it is not much
>> (any?) different to how Sun had it with Java 5/6 and the commercial
products
>> that hung off that.
>>
>> A bunch of us raised this with Oracle back at the start of this year and
>> they were adamant  that they didn't intend to change things from how Sun
ran
>> it.
>>
>> If people are concerned about a particilar point then I'm happy to take
that
>> to Oracle, let me know! But i don't think this is a case of it being a
>> deliberate malicious trap or anything (and I can get suspicious with the
>> best of em ;p)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martijn
>>
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2011, martin_clausen <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> > Has anyone noted the language regarding "Commercial Features" in the
>> > Java 7 SE license agreement?
>>
>> > I found it curious and dug a bit around. It appears that while a
>> > number of Java 7 SE JRockit and Java for Business features are freely
>> > available for download from Oracle's site and subject to the same
>> > license agreement as basic Java 7 SE, they may not be used for
>> > production purposes without a separate license. I have put together a
>> > short post here
>>
>> http://www.spyfoos.com/index.php/2011/07/28/oracle-java-7-and-commerc...>
(shameless plug) that outlines the situation.
>>
>> > /mac
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