Hi all, I'm back - fun trip away from the modern world!
Are these concerns still out there? Did anyone approach Oracle? Would they like me to? Cheers, Martijn On 30 July 2011 19:46, Martijn Verburg <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm away on a first nations reserve for a few days, but I'll happily bring > this to Oracle afterwards. Or someone can get hold of Dalibor Topic or one > of the community team to discuss it a little more quickly. Always good to > get these things cleared up > > Cheers, > Martijn > > > On Saturday, 30 July 2011, martin_clausen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I don't know what the motive behind this specific license construct > > is. > > > > I do know that it makes it very easy to get into what Oracle could > > view as a non-compliance situation as most developers / ops persons > > perceive Java to be freely available (with the exception of Java ME), > > and will happily install the "Commercial Features" without realizing > > the consequences. Oracle hasn't exactly made it easy to discover this > > by making the "Commercial Features" subject to the same license (with > > the built in exception) as Java 7 SE. > > > > /mac > > > > On Jul 30, 7:10 pm, Martijn Verburg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> It's good that these things get raised. > >> > >> My IANAL take on this. Despite the legal language changes, it is not > much > >> (any?) different to how Sun had it with Java 5/6 and the commercial > products > >> that hung off that. > >> > >> A bunch of us raised this with Oracle back at the start of this year and > >> they were adamant that they didn't intend to change things from how Sun > ran > >> it. > >> > >> If people are concerned about a particilar point then I'm happy to take > that > >> to Oracle, let me know! But i don't think this is a case of it being a > >> deliberate malicious trap or anything (and I can get suspicious with the > >> best of em ;p) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Martijn > >> > >> On Saturday, 30 July 2011, martin_clausen <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > Has anyone noted the language regarding "Commercial Features" in the > >> > Java 7 SE license agreement? > >> > >> > I found it curious and dug a bit around. It appears that while a > >> > number of Java 7 SE JRockit and Java for Business features are freely > >> > available for download from Oracle's site and subject to the same > >> > license agreement as basic Java 7 SE, they may not be used for > >> > production purposes without a separate license. I have put together a > >> > short post here > >> > >> http://www.spyfoos.com/index.php/2011/07/28/oracle-java-7-and-commerc...> > (shameless plug) that outlines the situation. > >> > >> > /mac > >> > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> > >> "The Java Posse" group.> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > >> [email protected].> For more options, visit this > group at > >> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
