I might be misunderstanding something here, but I would never hire someone who wouldn't share his knowledge because he wanted to stay indispensable in the company. I don't mind being replaced, if my code stays in production and can be maintained by someone else while I am doing something else somewhere else, I consider that a success.
Of course, I should be so lucky. It seems that there are more applications in production that need maintenance than new applications that need to be created, so I am mostly stuck writing small new parts for existing applications, and I stay for years (I am a contractor). The customer rarely has the time or inclination to sit down beside me and share all my wisdom. If I want to create shiny new applications I have to do it on my own time. Aase On Oct 17, 10:04 pm, "a.efremov" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > To fund the company. It sounds so easy , but really very difficult in > practice. Or even impossible. I did in past some dreams about it. > Well, I spent my money on idea. (positive experience) Wrote code. And > even if idea is good, and even if code is really fast and robust. > well, working application. Business is different topic. Once you go on > production you see a lot of questions not relevant to coding, > obviously. Bottom line: you have to change your profession or keep > doing what you really like :) you need to be ready for that step. > > Second, I'm not first day on a contract job. That's ok to work 6 > months or even 4 years on a contract position till your boss needs > you. > You finish all and you move on. It makes no sense to keep the > position, anyway there's nothing to write any more. > > But overtime I observe the different "pattern". I have feeling that > people are after your experience and know-how. They prefer you spend > "work time" sitting next to them and talking about how it works and > what to do in that case and so on. asking you to be more chatty and > write different type of papers about. And all that after 1 month. > Aiming to get maximum "how to do" from you about particular topic + > working code base. Good idea. > > if companies are protected by low. patents + other top secret stuff. > Should programmer disclose his own "how-to"s? remembering how long it > takes, tons of books, variety of conferences, people, articles. > Don't need VSM to see a strait line btw "doing the job" and > "transferring knowledge" to help put you out as soon as possible. > > On Oct 17, 9:06 am, Shaine Ismail <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Depends on the nature and terms of the contract. A previous contract I > > signed assigned any ip and code I developed to be the property of the > > company (even stuff I worked on in my own time). > > > Regards > > Shaine Ismail > > On Oct 17, 2011 7:01 AM, "Jan Goyvaerts" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm having a hard time to believe someone can take it that way. UNLESS it > > > was agreed upfront the contract was for a specific task only. In that case > > > you knew they'll end it once it was done. > > > > But it doesn't look like that's the case here. Or was it ? > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 04:37, Michael Burgess > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Hi Alexander, > > > >> While I understand your frustration, this seems like a reasonable way > > >> to get something done. > > > >> Let me explain, I once worked for a someone in the medical industry > > >> who had a great idea for manufacturing parts. Now, he had no expertise > > >> in manufacturing or software development, but what he did was find the > > >> resources, like software engineers and CAD/CAM experts which he > > >> contracted to develop a system to perform this new process. > > > >> This job was fun, interesting and challenging and I got to work in > > >> areas I previously hadn't. > > > >> Once the software was in production and the tooling was perfected he > > >> stopped using expensive contractors and found someone more affordable > > >> and able to build on the foundations we put together. > > > >> Last I heard the business is doing well. Now he paid us for our > > >> services to implement his idea. We contributed and made improvements > > >> to what he was trying to do, but we weren't business partners or > > >> owners, we were the hammer and nails to get his job done. > > > >> If you want to get the benefits, come up with the idea, fund it, and, > > >> assuming success, enjoy the fruits of your labor. > > > >> I guess what I am saying is that just because someone cannot > > >> personally implement the solution to a particular problem, what is > > >> wrong with them getting someone like yourself in for a short time to > > >> help solve that problem. > > > >> Michael > > > >> On Oct 17, 6:35 am, "a.efremov" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > It smells as modern days stilling, people promise you contract job and > > >> > interesting work, load you 10h/day. then simply run away with your > > >> > results. Well, you got a bit of money for that. That's not so bad. > > >> > What to do, keep mouth locked and let them do anything with code base. > > >> > Finish code and go away. > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > >> "The Java Posse" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "The Java Posse" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. 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