Squirrel is pretty snappy and if you change the look and feel from the default, not too ugly. Ricoh's InfoPrint Manager has an ugly but quick Swing client. My last company has various ugly but quick Swing CCTV playback applications.
I wrote a network simulator that was less ugly, and snappy. I wrote a tiny app that verifies MD5 sums so that non-technical staff could run quality checks on files being loaded onto hardware just before shipping, and got asked whether it was really in Java as it was fast and tiny. All that's not to say that the Swing-slow statements are unfounded. It just takes some effort to make sure things are fast. I remember loading a date picker at startup just because the classloading delay was visible if that was left to when the user wanted it. Not a large delay, just visible. Another part of the story is background tasks, which hopefully just improved in Java 7 with SecondaryLoop. I'm looking forward to trying that out. On Apr 30, 2012 3:38 PM, "Cédric Beust ♔" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Casper Bang <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> On Monday, April 30, 2012 8:17:03 PM UTC+2, phil swenson wrote: >>> >>> java apps can feel snappy sometimes. but often the first time you hit >>> a menu item it takes forever to come up. Or if you leave an app >>> running, leave for another task and come bask - it takes quite a while >>> to become responsive again. also, garbage collection pauses are >>> annoying. >>> >> >> I don't think it's the GC, but Swing is just horribly over-engineered. >> The most successful Java desktop applications (if we can call these >> > > Agreed. I think overall, it's easier to create a reasonably responsive SWT > application while doing so in Swing requires a lot of time and expertise. > There are very, very few companies that can pull this off besides JetBrains. > > -- > Cédric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
