On Tue, 15 May 2012 08:25:35 +0200, Cédric Beust ♔ <[email protected]> wrote:

Really? I certainly don't approve of everything that Oracle has done
regarding Java since they took over, but it's hard to argue against the
fact that they pulled off in one year what Sun wasn't able to achieve in
five: release a new major version of the JDK.

Agreed. Let's not forget that now we also have a (Open)JDK 7 for Mac OS X, aligned with other versions. It might not be that relevant given that a minuscule fraction of developers use Mac OS X, but Oracle solved a decade long problem.

More or less yes, and I think it's pretty telling that in the last half a
decade alternative languages on the JVM went from being a silly
theoretical exercise to a necessity.


According to whom or what? Not a single one of these alternative languages has managed to make even a small dent in Java's dominance. Groovy seems to
be the number two language on the JVM with a single digit percent in mind
share, followed by Scala with an even smaller portion.

Correct. Additionally, if more languages were a strict necessity to replace Java, not only Java would have been passed, but you'd get a single alternative language dominance. Instead, you have many. That's why I think it's a normal dynamic of people innovating the scenario and I think it's great that this mostly happens in the community.

To answer the original question about .Net vs Java communities, we could ask ourselves: how many of the good things (languages, tools, practices) people are using now (in both communities) originated out of the former and the latter community?


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