My experience in a UK university was that the lecturers taught whatever they were good at unless they were useless in which case something was chosen for them and they had to learn it to teach it.
Most of them came from a maths department that got closed down but they had no computer science background. Instead of teaching some mathematical areas of computer science they often just picked a programming language, started teaching it, and learned it in that order. I later worked alongside them as a lecturer and researcher for some years and couldn't get any sensible words out of them when I suggested that we should be teaching some form of lambda (closure, anonymous function) if not lambda calculus itself. CS in the UK will probably remain a code monkey training course, and not a very good one at that. On the engineering side, no VCS was covered or even available, unit testing was unheard of and the computers were set up against the programmer; you could not run anything that listened on a port and it was hard to get at cmd. Linux was later added but without Java or sufficient personal space to add it to your home directory. Laptops were forbidden because laptop users would disconnect network cables and the computer science students wouldn't know what to do despite having a module in which among other items they would learn to attach the plastic connectors to network cables. I can also speak a little for Argentina, it seems that the universities here do a mixture between genuine projects with real clients and pointless rote memorisation. One of my coworkers had a test recently in which he needed to be able to recall the byte/bit structure of 22 network protocols.. On May 23, 2012 7:06 PM, "Fabrizio Giudici" <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2012 23:16:51 +0200, Ido Ran <ido....@gmail.com> wrote: > > My first point was that high education (college and univ.) in >> Israel emphasize the math to much. They also lack teaching >> of theoretical things like principles of OO, design methods and work >> methods. >> > > This point makes me smile. I could write the very same statement replacing > "Israel" with "Italy". In the end, it seems we think it's a matter of our > countries (and the public debate in our countries often emphasizes that "in > other places" things are different), but it seems a general trend. In the > end, it seems that universities are always a bit off the real world. I > still believe this happens in my countries more than elsewhere, anyway. > > > > > -- > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it > http://tidalwave.it - http://fabriziogiudici.it > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com <javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/javaposse?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en>. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
