Salford, but I've gathered that this is not actually atypical.
On May 24, 2012 7:31 AM, "Russel Winder" <rus...@winder.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 19:56 -0300, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
> > My experience in a UK university was that the lecturers taught whatever
> > they were good at unless they were useless in which case something was
> > chosen for them and they had to learn it to teach it.
>
> Sort of.
>
> > Most of them came from a maths department that got closed down but they
> had
> > no computer science background.  Instead of teaching some mathematical
> > areas of computer science they often just picked a programming language,
> > started teaching it, and learned it in that order.
>
> Now I wonder if we are in distinct parallel universes.
>
> > I later worked alongside them as a lecturer and researcher for some years
> > and couldn't get any sensible words out of them when I suggested that we
> > should be teaching some form of lambda (closure, anonymous function) if
> not
> > lambda calculus itself.  CS in the UK will probably remain a code monkey
> > training course, and not a very good one at that.
>
> I have no idea which UK university you were working in, but this
> experience bears almost no relationship to mine of the ones I used to
> work in and was associated with by being external examiner.
>
> > On the engineering side, no VCS was covered or even available, unit
> testing
> > was unheard of and the computers were set up against the programmer; you
> > could not run anything that listened on a port and it was hard to get at
> > cmd.  Linux was later added but without Java or sufficient personal space
> > to add it to your home directory.
>
> I know that using RCS hardly counts as a VCS but we had the students
> using it in the mid to late 1980s. Then moved to CVS as soon as we
> could, then Subversion. I have no direct university experience in the
> last few years but all the folks I know still surviving in the system
> (*) report Git and Mercurial in very wide use.
>
> > Laptops were forbidden because laptop users would disconnect network
> cables
> > and the computer science students wouldn't know what to do despite
> having a
> > module in which among other items they would learn to attach the plastic
> > connectors to network cables.
>
> Now I really worry. Which university is it of which you talk...
>
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