On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 19:56 -0300, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
> My experience in a UK university was that the lecturers taught whatever
> they were good at unless they were useless in which case something was
> chosen for them and they had to learn it to teach it.

Sort of.

> Most of them came from a maths department that got closed down but they had
> no computer science background.  Instead of teaching some mathematical
> areas of computer science they often just picked a programming language,
> started teaching it, and learned it in that order.

Now I wonder if we are in distinct parallel universes.

> I later worked alongside them as a lecturer and researcher for some years
> and couldn't get any sensible words out of them when I suggested that we
> should be teaching some form of lambda (closure, anonymous function) if not
> lambda calculus itself.  CS in the UK will probably remain a code monkey
> training course, and not a very good one at that.

I have no idea which UK university you were working in, but this
experience bears almost no relationship to mine of the ones I used to
work in and was associated with by being external examiner.

> On the engineering side, no VCS was covered or even available, unit testing
> was unheard of and the computers were set up against the programmer; you
> could not run anything that listened on a port and it was hard to get at
> cmd.  Linux was later added but without Java or sufficient personal space
> to add it to your home directory.

I know that using RCS hardly counts as a VCS but we had the students
using it in the mid to late 1980s. Then moved to CVS as soon as we
could, then Subversion. I have no direct university experience in the
last few years but all the folks I know still surviving in the system
(*) report Git and Mercurial in very wide use.

> Laptops were forbidden because laptop users would disconnect network cables
> and the computer science students wouldn't know what to do despite having a
> module in which among other items they would learn to attach the plastic
> connectors to network cables.

Now I really worry. Which university is it of which you talk...

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