On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 07:03 -0700, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
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> I was not trying to prove anything. I was responding to the claim "The
> system is completely broken" by giving a few examples that show that the
> system is not as broken as claimed.

I have lost track of who claimed what, when I'm afraid.  I wonder though
if there is an element of "cross purposes" at least between your
arguments and mine.  I believe the patent system generally, but
especially the USA system, is broken because it doesn't support the
little guy, it is now just being "gamed" by big business and the
lawyers. Over the last couple of years I think I have documented this in
various posting here and on my blog ­– albeit somewhat aggressively
sometimes!  I think the innovation that has undoubtedly been happening
in the USA has little or nothing to do with the patent system directly:
seeking patent protection is not an integral part of most innovative
companies strategy.

> Could it be improved? Of course, and I gave a few suggestions to that
> effect in the past discussions. But anyone who claims that the current
> system completely stifles innovation needs to pause for a moment and look
> at the the US track record in software innovation (pretty good compared to
> all the other countries).

I think I have never claimed that the patent system stifles innovation
directly, but I think it can (and does) indirectly. This is not however
in anyway in conflict with your claim (which I agree with) that the USA
has an excellent track record of innovation. I think though that USA
innovation and the patent system are two different dimensions of USA
society.

> Maybe the current system *slows down* innovation, but none of the ideas
> I've heard so far that purport to fix this have met the burden of proof
> that under these new rules, there would be more innovation than there is
> right now.

I haven't yet seen a proposal regarding patents that will refocus the
system back to the 18th century focus on allowing small guy inventors to
benefit from big guy exploitation. I think that time is now over, that
tax benefits, NDAs, good marketing, and rapid time to market are the
main drivers.  Certainly patents can be taken out as a defensive
measure, but in the end market penetration prior to competition is
something to be achieved by means other than patents when you are a
small guy in a market where there are big guys.

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