Agreed. A simple, unified, compile-time/runtime/language-level module system is all I really want from Jigsaw.

Modularizing the JVM and (most silly of all) integrating with platform-specific deployment tools (e.g. rpm) are really uninteresting to me. I can see how they're all good things for the long-term health and expansion of Java, but those can all be Java 9 or 10 things. Simple, integrated modularity is the important thing to get sooner.

On 7/19/2012 8:45 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
I'm flabbergasted that this entire thread is lamenting the fact that we aren't getting 'smaller JREs' now for java 8.

Like 95% of the rest of the world of java, my java apps tend to be long running and tend to be on machines I control, i.e. make the JRE 2GB for all I care, it just doesn't matter one iota. Bootup can take 10 seconds too, still don't really care.

But I'm REALLY disappointed (not annoyed; if this is the right call, it's the right call. A rushed API is never a good idea): I wanted jigsaw for the ability to modularize my projects, and make development simpler by just being able to stick my dependencies in a file. A unification, of sorts, between the maven idea (build-time dependency management) and the OSGi idea (run-time dependency management). I'm probably expecting way more of jigsaw than it really is, but you gotta start somewhere, and a modularization system that is an intrinsic part of the language and which is what the JVM itself is modularized on seems like a fantastic start.

On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:49:51 PM UTC+2, Mwanji Ezana wrote:

    http://mreinhold.org/blog/late-for-the-train
    <http://mreinhold.org/blog/late-for-the-train>

    I had just read an interesting practical intro to Jigsaw by Paul
    Sandoz, so I'm sad to see it go.

    Moandji

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