Apple's overall behavior is entirely relevant to programmer's, though.

Their walled-garden business model is really troubling -- as profitable as it has been for some.

 * There is no alternative access to this market
     o Apple has a monopoly on this access and you play by their rules
       and conditions or don't access this market at all.
 * Apple takes a substantial cut.
     o There's no competition on access to this market, so no market
       forces keeping this in balance.
 * Worst of all Apple decides who can access this market -- does so
   /after/ the product has been developed and can remove this access at
   any time for no reason.

To me this is a really troubling business model for application developers. Sure, it can be profitable -- yet you're reduced to being sharecroppers surviving at Apple's whim and on Apple's terms.

Given that Apple is the most valuable US company ever (though not in inflation adjusted dollars), I think we're looking at the new evil empire. Back to Java, Apple has used its power to say "no" to Java on many of their devices, whereas even Microsoft didn't do anything to prevent Java from working on most of their devices or to close off the ability to sell Java-based applications for them.

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Jess Holle

On 8/25/2012 4:30 AM, Ricky Clarkson wrote:

Oracle case: Can you write a library that provides compatibility with someone else's library?

Samsung case: Can you copy your competitor's handling of finger-to-screen events?

The Oracle case was clearly more relevant to programmers.

On Aug 25, 2012 4:07 AM, "Fabrizio Giudici" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I completely fail to understand why we (and the rest of the
    blogosphere) have spent hundreds of emails discussing the Oracle
    vs Google suite, as something that could menace Android and thus
    the freedom to innovate, while almost nothing has been said about
    the Apple vs Samsung, which is just a proxy for Apple vs Google.
    BTW, Oracle has lost (at least the first round) challenging on
    technical stuff, I mean something related to the *implementation*
    of a VM, Apple has won on "pinch to zoom", which is 100x absurd.
    My only explanation is a prejudice against Oracle (added to a
    previous prejudice against Sun), which seems much stronger than
    the prejudice against Apple.


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