So, I take it you're a fan of the delay time being ZERO.  :-)

I appreciate that point of view (I want my ThreeTen yesterday and 308 
should have been in JDK7) and another advantage I can see in it is that it 
is less new stuff for me to learn in one chunk (as well as giving the tools 
people less to do).

On Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:04:24 AM UTC-4, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
>
> I want my lambdas now and I'm in a job where using non-Java languages 
> will be a difficult sell.  The earlier the release the better for me. 
>
> I've seen classpath hell exactly once, actually in a current project, 
> and plan to deal with it in a different way - attempting to 
> find/create a combination of libraries that don't have version 
> conflicts, and where that is not possible, moving tasks out of the 
> same JVM process. 
>
> The other benefit would be JVM startup time, which is less and less an 
> issue each year as machines get faster and Java doesn't get bigger. 
> I'd like to see the startup time be improved further, but lambdas will 
> affect me more than cutting down startup from 5 seconds to 1. 
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Hayden Jones 
> <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > I'm curious to hear people's opinions on how long JDK8 should be delayed 
> for 
> > Jigsaw. 
> > 
> > Assuming (and please state your own assumptions when you offer your 
> > opinion): 
> > 
> > The current release of JDK8 (without Jigsaw) stays scheduled for August 
> 2013 
> > Oracle does not want to release more than once every two years. (so if 
> JDK8 
> > is shipped with Jigsaw then JDK9 would arrive the earliest at August 
> 2015) 
> > The ETA on the work to be done is accurate within 20% 
> > 
> > Then, if the work on JDK8 + Jigsaw could be shipped prior to September 
> 2014 
> > then I would prefer to wait.  Otherwise I think that the new DateTime 
> API 
> > and Lambda should be shipped on August 2013. 
> > 
> > Other opinions? 
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