0? It's already five years since the fully-working BGGA compiler for lambdas and six years since the proposal. >10 years since MS added delegates to their fork of Java (I don't mean C#, but the one the court case was about) which are not lambdas but meet some of the same needs.
I expect tooling support will be there before release, the IDEs had the Java 7 features ready before it was released. Less maintained tools like jad or some of the lint tools might not be ready on time though. Compare that to Java 5 though, where the IDEs were terrible on generics for quite a while. I think that was because the process was more closed back then. I don't like the slow speed of progress but I do appreciate that it's at least visible from the outside. On Aug 30, 2012 11:28 AM, "Hayden Jones" <[email protected]> wrote: > So, I take it you're a fan of the delay time being ZERO. :-) > > I appreciate that point of view (I want my ThreeTen yesterday and 308 > should have been in JDK7) and another advantage I can see in it is that it > is less new stuff for me to learn in one chunk (as well as giving the tools > people less to do). > > On Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:04:24 AM UTC-4, Ricky Clarkson wrote: >> >> I want my lambdas now and I'm in a job where using non-Java languages >> will be a difficult sell. The earlier the release the better for me. >> >> I've seen classpath hell exactly once, actually in a current project, >> and plan to deal with it in a different way - attempting to >> find/create a combination of libraries that don't have version >> conflicts, and where that is not possible, moving tasks out of the >> same JVM process. >> >> The other benefit would be JVM startup time, which is less and less an >> issue each year as machines get faster and Java doesn't get bigger. >> I'd like to see the startup time be improved further, but lambdas will >> affect me more than cutting down startup from 5 seconds to 1. >> >> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Hayden Jones >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'm curious to hear people's opinions on how long JDK8 should be >> delayed for >> > Jigsaw. >> > >> > Assuming (and please state your own assumptions when you offer your >> > opinion): >> > >> > The current release of JDK8 (without Jigsaw) stays scheduled for August >> 2013 >> > Oracle does not want to release more than once every two years. (so if >> JDK8 >> > is shipped with Jigsaw then JDK9 would arrive the earliest at August >> 2015) >> > The ETA on the work to be done is accurate within 20% >> > >> > Then, if the work on JDK8 + Jigsaw could be shipped prior to September >> 2014 >> > then I would prefer to wait. Otherwise I think that the new DateTime >> API >> > and Lambda should be shipped on August 2013. >> > >> > Other opinions? >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "Java Posse" group. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/javaposse/-/53J8nPwzdIAJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse/-/53J8nPwzdIAJ>. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > javaposse+...@**googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/**group/javaposse?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en>. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Java Posse" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/javaposse/-/RwzaTbOSBwsJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
